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I imagine a future where a project like wikipedia is replicated endlessly by willing users on an IPFS-like network, where people can donate CPU, storage and ban

by idoby 6y ago

I imagine a future where a project like wikipedia is replicated endlessly by willing users on an IPFS-like network, where people can donate CPU, storage and bandwidth instead of money to pay for a centralized server, simply by running something like ipfs pin wikipedia (or a subset)

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aspenmayer 6y ago
Sounds kind of like a newsgroup, with every client also being a server. I think torrents can be dynamically updated now.[1][2] Maybe we already have the tools we need, we just haven’t put all the pieces together yet. [1] https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0039.html https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0039.html [2] https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html
- idoby 6y ago
  That's right. We need to start thinking decentralized. Instead of using DNS to find a server and HTTP to get the content from it, we should switch to a decentralized lookup of the data itself, sourced from wherever the network can serve it. I don't mind getting one wiki page from Peter and another from Paul.
  - aspenmayer 6y ago
    I think IPFS and Filecoin could solve these problems and keep attribution and data integrity intact. Would be nice to have the privacy of monero or another more private coin to facilitate subscription functionality with built in micropayments.
  - aspenmayer 6y ago
    Update on this front: Web3Torrent adds etherium micropayments to WebTorrent https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23602008 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23602008 https://blog.statechannels.org/introducing-web3torrent/ https://blog.statechannels.org/introducing-web3torrent/
- lizardmancan 6y ago
  nice. pointing 2 torrents at the same folder alteady works. If they share files at worse it will be overwritten with the same content. Even if there is a lack of clients supporting it you can still force a re-check and avoid downloading everything again.

by idoby 6y ago

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aspenmayer 6y ago

Sounds kind of like a newsgroup, with every client also being a server. I think torrents can be dynamically updated now.[1][2] Maybe we already have the tools we need, we just haven’t put all the pieces together yet. [1] https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0039.html https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0039.html [2] https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html https://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0046.html

idoby 6y ago
That's right. We need to start thinking decentralized. Instead of using DNS to find a server and HTTP to get the content from it, we should switch to a decentralized lookup of the data itself, sourced from wherever the network can serve it. I don't mind getting one wiki page from Peter and another from Paul.
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  I think IPFS and Filecoin could solve these problems and keep attribution and data integrity intact. Would be nice to have the privacy of monero or another more private coin to facilitate subscription functionality with built in micropayments.
- aspenmayer 6y ago
  Update on this front: Web3Torrent adds etherium micropayments to WebTorrent https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23602008 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23602008 https://blog.statechannels.org/introducing-web3torrent/ https://blog.statechannels.org/introducing-web3torrent/
lizardmancan 6y ago
nice. pointing 2 torrents at the same folder alteady works. If they share files at worse it will be overwritten with the same content. Even if there is a lack of clients supporting it you can still force a re-check and avoid downloading everything again.