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Jeff Bezos can’t solve the problem either. He is investing in electric vans, etc for Amazon, though. Kickstarting commercial EV’s is a good start. “I feel so

Jeff Bezos can’t solve the problem either. He is investing in electric vans, etc for Amazon, though. Kickstarting commercial EV’s is a good start. “I feel so helpless about this, I try to limit my own impact on the environment (not flying, not owning a car) but I know that it's basically useless to solve this bottom up.” I’m glad you are self aware about the problem. We’re going spend the next decade discussing climate change on HN, as we did the past decade. A lot more people need to realize that wasting our time shaming people for flying, etc is pointless. Climate change is a slow train wreck that won’t be avoided. We watched Coronavirus hit us quickly and people still denied it. Miami slowly flooding over decades is inevitable. Remember to upvote every HN climate change article. A decade from now we can all look back at how little we accomplished. We’re beginning another lost decade.

polytely 6y ago
Yeah I get that Bezos cannot personally rescue us, but I find the lack of imagination absolutely bonkers. Like Amazon only works in a not-collapsed world, yet the measures that he does take are only inside Amazon. Why not spend a couple of billions of basic research in climate change mitigation. The dude could fund the Xerox-Parc of climate action in perpetuity and not notice it. And of course you can see Bezos as the stand-in for the 1%. I just feel that the people who are the most able to actually do something, seem completely fine with the collapse because they got theirs and their children will live happily in their New Zealand bunkers while the rest the world kind of fizzles out.
- rayiner 6y ago
  The experts are saying that civilization will not collapse. Right now, the expert estimates for a "business as usual" scenario are about a 10-15% loss of GDP. I have to imagine people like Bezos are living in that universe, not in the fringes where climate change results in "collapse."
  - dantheman 6y ago
    and that's a 10-15% loss of GDP at that time if there wasn't climate change. It's important to remember, since growth is compounding big hits to GDP now for radical solutions will cause far higher losses then.
- LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
  Living in bunkers happily? Really?
  - DonHopkins 6y ago
    Those kind of people get their happyness from the suffering of other people, of which there will be a lot.
tartoran 6y ago
>Remember to upvote every HN climate change article. A decade from now we can all look back at how little we accomplished. Any climate change that grows too conspicuous is flagged. This post is an example. @dang Is it possible to unflag this thread?

polytely 6y ago

Yeah I get that Bezos cannot personally rescue us, but I find the lack of imagination absolutely bonkers. Like Amazon only works in a not-collapsed world, yet the measures that he does take are only inside Amazon. Why not spend a couple of billions of basic research in climate change mitigation. The dude could fund the Xerox-Parc of climate action in perpetuity and not notice it. And of course you can see Bezos as the stand-in for the 1%. I just feel that the people who are the most able to actually do something, seem completely fine with the collapse because they got theirs and their children will live happily in their New Zealand bunkers while the rest the world kind of fizzles out.

rayiner 6y ago
The experts are saying that civilization will not collapse. Right now, the expert estimates for a "business as usual" scenario are about a 10-15% loss of GDP. I have to imagine people like Bezos are living in that universe, not in the fringes where climate change results in "collapse."
- dantheman 6y ago
  and that's a 10-15% loss of GDP at that time if there wasn't climate change. It's important to remember, since growth is compounding big hits to GDP now for radical solutions will cause far higher losses then.
LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
Living in bunkers happily? Really?
- DonHopkins 6y ago
  Those kind of people get their happyness from the suffering of other people, of which there will be a lot.

tartoran 6y ago

>Remember to upvote every HN climate change article. A decade from now we can all look back at how little we accomplished. Any climate change that grows too conspicuous is flagged. This post is an example. @dang Is it possible to unflag this thread?