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Hmm. I agree in part, but I am not sure if we can compare COVID-19 against the horrors of two world wars where tens of millions died (15-22,000,000 deaths in W
by mattlondon 6y ago
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I agree in part, but I am not sure if we can compare COVID-19 against the horrors of two world wars where tens of millions died (15-22,000,000 deaths in WW1 and 70-85,000,000 deaths in WW2 according to wikipedia) and entire cities were literally flattened and millions more left homeless and jobless?
The strange thing about COVID-19 is that it is largely invisible (unless you happen to work in a hospital or morgue or something). Apart from people wearing masks and Starbucks only doing takeaway and those unlucky enough to have lost a loved one/friend/colleague (my condolences if so) it is hard for people to actually "see" the impact. For me, the largest impact is I have to plan my grocery deliveries a bit more carefully (since I can't do a top-up shop easily) and I work from home more than I usually did - nothing else has changed in my life really.
Will Starbucks re-open their doors and be selling double-tall skinny frap extra-cold within a few days of getting the say-so? You bet - and who can blame them? Nothing will have changed for them - people will still buy the coffee just like they are buying them right now during the pandemic.
Did Hiroshima/Dresden/Hamburg/Berlin/Tokyo/Stalingrad/others re-open after VE/VJ day? No - because they were absolutely physically obliterated with the population killed, maimed or displaced (...and even if they weren't, physiologically it must have been absolutely crippling to be a survivor).
Were I alive in WW2, would my life only be mildly inconvenienced like it is today with COVID-19? No way - if I had even survived at all, I'd be happy to have a home to live in (and no doubt without reliable electricity, gas or sewage), even luckier to have a job to work at, and even luckier still to have shops to visit with stock to allow me to even purchase any food. And I'd no doubt have known friends family and colleagues who died in unspeakably horrible ways. Whatever happened I'd be psychologically scarred for life.
It just doesn't feel like COVID-19 is in the same league... And this is before we even mention genocide from WW2.
That said though I am all for fiscal stimulus only going to green companies though! No government hand-outs to the cruiseline, airline, oil, or shipping industries please! :)
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Aside: ... I note that COVID-19 is now "worse" than the WW2 Blitz in London in that it has killed more people (1). I sincerely hope now that the rose-tinted nostalgia for people citing the "Blitz Spirit" etc in the context of Brexit can go away. London has now faced worse than the Blitz - and when it did it was immigrant nurses (one from the EU, one from the Commonwealth) that literally nursed even our Prime Minister back to health. We are stronger together.</politics>
1 - https://www.economist.com/britain/2020/04/30/covid-19-is-killing-londoners-at-a-faster-rate-than-german-bombs-did https://www.economist.com/britain/2020/04/30/covid-19-is-kil...
- est31 6y ago> I am not sure if we can compare COVID-19 against the horrors of two world wars where tens of millions died People compare COVID-19 with the 1918 epidemic all the time, and that epidemic has killed more people than WW1. COVID-19 is currently off by a factor of 100, but it's not over yet. We don't know what the final death count will be, but it'll likely be (much) smaller.
- JasonFruit 6y agoNote the difference between the people killed in WW2 and those killed by COVID-19: the WW2 deaths were primarily healthy young men in their late teens and early 20s. The COVID-19 deaths have been primarily among the elderly and infirm. There are numerous exceptions, sure, but the societal impact of deaths among the two different demographic groups is pretty different, qualitatively if not quantitatively.
- maiman 6y agoThe comparison is not even close in terms of numbers, we can see the huge difference at a glance if we check the stats: http://www.world-war-2.info/statistics/ http://www.world-war-2.info/statistics/ https://covidbynumbers.com/ https://covidbynumbers.com/