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I got tired of trying to make Linux on the desktop happen when XFCE told its users that not being able to resize windows by dragging their borders was "not as m

I got tired of trying to make Linux on the desktop happen when XFCE told its users that not being able to resize windows by dragging their borders was "not as much of a usability issue as some suggest". When every Linux desktop complaint gets dismissed with a variant of "you're holding it wrong" a bit of mandatory anonymous telemetry by the alternative doesn't look that wrong.

Paianni 6y ago
Xfce doesn't represent all DE's and WM's. Chances are that statement came from a single dev anyway.
- adolfojp 6y ago
  https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/ https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce...
ubercow13 6y ago
I am resizing this window by dragging the border in XFCE right now
- adolfojp 6y ago
  https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/ https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce...
  - ubercow13 6y ago
    Yes, you have to click on the border instead of outside. There are other window managers available that don't have that issue. I often see this sentiment but I guess I don't get it. You are actually seeing a response from the developer about this, that's a good thing! They have repeatedly acknowledged the usability problem in the bug report I found [1], while explaining that the implementation would be difficult. I might wonder why in Windows I am not able to resize windows with a hotkey+the mouse instead of fumbling for the border to click on. Personally I find that much more of a usability issue. But I would never get some response from a Windows developer about it. I might make a post asking about it on a Microsoft support forum and get some volunteer unqualified Certified Microsoft Helper explaining to me why my use case is invalid, but you would probably never get any real contact with a developer. Wasn't it only Windows 10 that finally allowed you to scroll inactive windows under the mouse cursor, something that I'm sure worked fine on Xfree86 in the 90's? Using Windows can be pretty tiring too. [1] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11808 https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11808
m0xte 6y ago
Yeah that was one of the things that poked me in the eye.

Paianni 6y ago

Xfce doesn't represent all DE's and WM's. Chances are that statement came from a single dev anyway.

adolfojp 6y ago
https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/ https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce...

ubercow13 6y ago

I am resizing this window by dragging the border in XFCE right now

adolfojp 6y ago
https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/ https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce...
- ubercow13 6y ago
  Yes, you have to click on the border instead of outside. There are other window managers available that don't have that issue. I often see this sentiment but I guess I don't get it. You are actually seeing a response from the developer about this, that's a good thing! They have repeatedly acknowledged the usability problem in the bug report I found [1], while explaining that the implementation would be difficult. I might wonder why in Windows I am not able to resize windows with a hotkey+the mouse instead of fumbling for the border to click on. Personally I find that much more of a usability issue. But I would never get some response from a Windows developer about it. I might make a post asking about it on a Microsoft support forum and get some volunteer unqualified Certified Microsoft Helper explaining to me why my use case is invalid, but you would probably never get any real contact with a developer. Wasn't it only Windows 10 that finally allowed you to scroll inactive windows under the mouse cursor, something that I'm sure worked fine on Xfree86 in the 90's? Using Windows can be pretty tiring too. [1] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11808 https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11808

m0xte 6y ago

Yeah that was one of the things that poked me in the eye.