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I worry it's a shitty slogan that will undercut real change. Many will think it's no police, hence no police brutality, only to learn it's really just a re-org

by wdr1 6y ago

I worry it's a shitty slogan that will undercut real change. Many will think it's no police, hence no police brutality, only to learn it's really just a re-organization of the police. Potentially a minor one, as many (most?) haven't shared details. Cynically, it seems an effort to take away attention from real reform, such as eliminating qualified immunity or banning police unions.

gremlinsinc 6y ago
If huge swaths are pushing for defunding, wouldn't this spur the more conservative dems/gop to say oh shit, half measures aren't going to work, if we DONT reform, we're gonna get abolishment or more riots? I mean seriously, this is a watershed moment in history unlike we've ever seen before and might ever see again. Real reform may come by getting strong on 'defund', and instead we end police unions... Abolitionism may be just ending all police unions, that could be a big enough abolition to end a lot of this systemic bullshit. (That combined w/ ending choke holds, qualified immunity, and prosecuting cops and not holding them accountable).