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While I get your point, I think when using Windows, the majority of ibstalled software will be closed source. And most, if not all of them have been granted the

While I get your point, I think when using Windows, the majority of ibstalled software will be closed source. And most, if not all of them have been granted the same level of priviledge a some point during installation.

romanovcode 6y ago
Majority of applications do not require UAC access allowance as well so those are not a problem.
slg 6y ago
That is fair. I would be lying if I said I never installed potentially dodgy software from the internet. My primary problem here is the motivation behind the software. The reason this software exists is fundamentally about a lack of trust. We don't trust Microsoft with the level of data that Windows 10 collects. That is a perfectly reasonable position to have. However if that is your opinion, it seems frankly bizarre to trust these nameless developers who have zero accountability for this software. Microsoft is at least accountable to the law, the stock market, and their customers. There is hundreds of billions on the line if they screw you over. If Barnacle screws you over, the only thing on the line is their copy of Ultra Street Fighter IV.
- bproven 6y ago
  Yeha I agree, considering it is free why not open source it to alleviate those concerns?
  - tonyedgecombe 6y ago
    Open source comes with a cost to the developer. There was an interesting discussion about it on HN a couple of months ago.
    - prophesi 6y ago
      It's possible to set up your repo to have issues disabled, which will get rid of the majority of FOSS's costs. When it comes to privacy/security tools, it makes sense to make it open source, since they usually are given an insane amount of privileges to modify your machine.
- tonyedgecombe 6y ago
  * the law, the stock market, and their customers* In that order. We are last. In fact I'm not even a customer anymore, I haven't paid for an update to Windows since Windows 8 was released.

romanovcode 6y ago

Majority of applications do not require UAC access allowance as well so those are not a problem.

slg 6y ago

That is fair. I would be lying if I said I never installed potentially dodgy software from the internet. My primary problem here is the motivation behind the software. The reason this software exists is fundamentally about a lack of trust. We don't trust Microsoft with the level of data that Windows 10 collects. That is a perfectly reasonable position to have. However if that is your opinion, it seems frankly bizarre to trust these nameless developers who have zero accountability for this software. Microsoft is at least accountable to the law, the stock market, and their customers. There is hundreds of billions on the line if they screw you over. If Barnacle screws you over, the only thing on the line is their copy of Ultra Street Fighter IV.

bproven 6y ago
Yeha I agree, considering it is free why not open source it to alleviate those concerns?
- tonyedgecombe 6y ago
  Open source comes with a cost to the developer. There was an interesting discussion about it on HN a couple of months ago.
  - prophesi 6y ago
    It's possible to set up your repo to have issues disabled, which will get rid of the majority of FOSS's costs. When it comes to privacy/security tools, it makes sense to make it open source, since they usually are given an insane amount of privileges to modify your machine.
tonyedgecombe 6y ago
* the law, the stock market, and their customers* In that order. We are last. In fact I'm not even a customer anymore, I haven't paid for an update to Windows since Windows 8 was released.