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I hope this doesn't happen. We've had police forces since ancient Chinese and Persian empires. They are like organized religion and the educational system. Ye
by adelHBN 6y ago
I hope this doesn't happen. We've had police forces since ancient Chinese and Persian empires. They are like organized religion and the educational system. Yes, lots of corrupt elements... but distancing from police or defund it is not the answer. Adding resources and reforming them is the answer.
And no, by resources I don't mean more guns... more educations, more checks and balances... that's what we do with bad teachers and priests.
- ultrarunner 6y agoAmerican police organizations are barely 200 years old. Prostitution is also an old profession, but it shouldn’t exactly be encouraged. We should judge these things by their merits, and American police have a very checkered culture and track record that makes supporting them uncomfortable at best.
- mrits 6y agoWhy shouldn't prostitution be encouraged?
- Barrin92 6y agosignificant exposure to violence and studies suggest trauma, drug abuse, and mental illness at rates far above the general population. One study in Australia found PTSD prevalence among street workers above levels of war veterans. https://theconversation.com/a-soldier-and-a-sex-worker-walk-into-a-therapists-office-whos-more-likely-to-have-ptsd-71464 https://theconversation.com/a-soldier-and-a-sex-worker-walk-...
- mrits 6y agoI think that study you linked does more to prove there isn't significant risk of increased PTSD for prostitutes. It's very close to the general population average. Since it's an average I would think you could find other professionals with more PTSD likelihood, such as trauma surgeons, social workers, or social media content censors.
- ultrarunner 6y agoPerhaps I "aspired to" would be clearer. I very much think that prohibition has, like other things, made it more dangerous. But it sounds like hard, dangerous work with likely damaging effects means other professions should be preferred.
- garlicGum 6y agoThere needs to be systematic reform. We can start with the demilitarization of the police, independent investigations, the end of qualified immunity, psychological evaluations, and harsher punishments for police. We also need to change the way the police and legal system interact. Right now, police are being protected by the legal system because courts depend on them too much.
- smt88 6y agoI think you (understandably) misinterpreted "defund" the police to mean "disbanding" or "abolishing" the police. It actually means redirecting police funds into more appropriate resources[1], such as first-responders trained to deal with mental-health issues. Police are often called for non-crimes. They also don't need millions for military-grade equipment... 1. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-police-defund-explainer-20200608-rasggle24ffwpnfwxqt3rlmvj4-story.html https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/criminal-justice/ct-poli...
- danaur 6y agoIf people continuously misinterpret this, and it is being used as a marketing statement, do you not think there is an issue with how it is being represented? If people outside the movement continuously make the same error in interpretation seems like you need either better education or messaging to not hurt the movement.
- smt88 6y agoYes, I do think there is an issue with how it's being represented. That's why I said it was understandable that GP was confused.
- garlicGum 6y agoGiven how much trump lies and spins the truth to suit his purpose[1], I don’t think it would make a difference. 1. https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-comments-on-buffalo-protester-martin-gugino-antifa-police/ https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-comments-on-buffalo-p...