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Haiku lags and will lag main stream operating systems regarding drivers for hardware. But if they could make it run in Raspberry Pis, with one set of hardware i

by libx 6y ago

Haiku lags and will lag main stream operating systems regarding drivers for hardware. But if they could make it run in Raspberry Pis, with one set of hardware it would be awesome. A light weight operating system on a light weight computer. RPi's could be the killer "app" for Haiku.

waddlesplash 6y ago
Honestly the main way we lag right now is missing sleep support (nobody has attempted it) and 3D acceleration. Otherwise, Haiku runs on modern hardware just fine. I have a custom build from this year under my desk with an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X (8c16t), an NVMe drive, and Haiku boots off the NVMe and runs great with all 16 threads. It even can connect to the internet via the WiFi card on the motherboard.
- hedora 6y ago
  I’m curious. I’ve long suspected hardware compatibility would get easier as everything moves into the same package as the CPU. Have things been playing out that way?
  - waddlesplash 6y ago
    Sort of. Things like USB, which past 1.0 has only one controller per generation, released the current controller design in 2010 with the first chipsets on the market in 2011. So that at least is less of a moving target than it once was. But, I mean, NVMe follows on SATA much like SATA followed on IDE, so on that front things are not so different. And for WiFi, there is not a common device interface for that, so each new generation of hardware from each manufacturer requires a large chunk of new driver code. Haiku reuses FreeBSD's WiFi drivers and 802.11 layer, but as you can see, they are having a hard time keeping up (only recently was one developer hired part-time to work on it, I believe.) So, it's kind of a wash, really -- on x86 commodity PC hardware, that is. Part of the reason Haiku on ARM still has not taken off is how wildly diverse that ecosystem is, especially how much of a moving target it is.
- rcarmo 6y ago
  I’d like to hear more on Rpi support. I remember the Pi being shunned in Haiku forums as being a “niche”, and having a dozen or so of them about the house I would _really_ like to know how the ARM port is going.
  - waddlesplash 6y ago
    There are a few odd commits from developers now and again, but nobody is working on it seriously. PC hardware is mostly x86, and we actually use that, so that's where our limited time mostly goes.

by libx 6y ago

waddlesplash 6y ago

Honestly the main way we lag right now is missing sleep support (nobody has attempted it) and 3D acceleration. Otherwise, Haiku runs on modern hardware just fine. I have a custom build from this year under my desk with an AMD Ryzen 7 3700X (8c16t), an NVMe drive, and Haiku boots off the NVMe and runs great with all 16 threads. It even can connect to the internet via the WiFi card on the motherboard.

hedora 6y ago
I’m curious. I’ve long suspected hardware compatibility would get easier as everything moves into the same package as the CPU. Have things been playing out that way?
- waddlesplash 6y ago
  Sort of. Things like USB, which past 1.0 has only one controller per generation, released the current controller design in 2010 with the first chipsets on the market in 2011. So that at least is less of a moving target than it once was. But, I mean, NVMe follows on SATA much like SATA followed on IDE, so on that front things are not so different. And for WiFi, there is not a common device interface for that, so each new generation of hardware from each manufacturer requires a large chunk of new driver code. Haiku reuses FreeBSD's WiFi drivers and 802.11 layer, but as you can see, they are having a hard time keeping up (only recently was one developer hired part-time to work on it, I believe.) So, it's kind of a wash, really -- on x86 commodity PC hardware, that is. Part of the reason Haiku on ARM still has not taken off is how wildly diverse that ecosystem is, especially how much of a moving target it is.
rcarmo 6y ago
I’d like to hear more on Rpi support. I remember the Pi being shunned in Haiku forums as being a “niche”, and having a dozen or so of them about the house I would _really_ like to know how the ARM port is going.
- waddlesplash 6y ago
  There are a few odd commits from developers now and again, but nobody is working on it seriously. PC hardware is mostly x86, and we actually use that, so that's where our limited time mostly goes.