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Never humiliate a coworker in public. Instead say "both options were considered but ultimately it was decided to select option B for reason Y."

caiobegotti 6y ago
My professional experience tells me that the next question will be who decided for B given Y, then you answer it and then you have a target on your SRE back, I'm afraid. Remember that the trickle-down economics works only when the shit hits the fans and what trickles down is not money.
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- all_blue_chucks 6y ago
  If your company uses post mortems to blame individuals rather than fix processes and tools, you haven't worked in a professional environment.
- FrankPetrilli 6y ago
  I've worked in these types of organizations before, and it's always counter-productive to making positive changes in the environment. You as an SRE can either make it better, or find an environment that's conducive to positive changes. If you'd like an outside resource to suggest or read up on better postmortem practices, the Google SRE Book has a chapter [0] on postmortem culture. It's an amazing change of pace and a huge stress level improvement for us SREs. [0] https://landing.google.com/sre/sre-book/chapters/postmortem-culture/ https://landing.google.com/sre/sre-book/chapters/postmortem-...
stillLicksPenis 6y ago
So then your recommendation, really, is to just jump ship, and turn your back on useless pieces of shit, vindictively isolating them, and never looking back. Don't stand up and fight for what's right. Just turn tail and run, under any circumstances that put you in conflict with leadership and their footguns. Honey, flies, et c...
pmarreck 6y ago
So, the appeal to anonymous authority, I see
ethbro 6y ago
What if Y = ignorance?
- jonfw 6y ago
  Where are all of these managers out there running companies making decisions with literally no thought whatsoever? I've literally never seen them- I almost exclusively work with rational human beings who are able to justify decisions, and the few who aren't haven't been afforded any real power.
  - ethbro 6y ago
    Mostly legacy industries. I don't want to indicate it's common. And typically gets weeded out by Director-level. But I've certainly seen more Top50 companies than not who have at least a few Manager / Sr Manager-level folks, in charge of key teams who own the sole keys to necessary functions, who are happy to say no to anything they're ignorant of, without any impetus to learn about it.

caiobegotti 6y ago

My professional experience tells me that the next question will be who decided for B given Y, then you answer it and then you have a target on your SRE back, I'm afraid. Remember that the trickle-down economics works only when the shit hits the fans and what trickles down is not money.

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all_blue_chucks 6y ago
If your company uses post mortems to blame individuals rather than fix processes and tools, you haven't worked in a professional environment.
FrankPetrilli 6y ago
I've worked in these types of organizations before, and it's always counter-productive to making positive changes in the environment. You as an SRE can either make it better, or find an environment that's conducive to positive changes. If you'd like an outside resource to suggest or read up on better postmortem practices, the Google SRE Book has a chapter [0] on postmortem culture. It's an amazing change of pace and a huge stress level improvement for us SREs. [0] https://landing.google.com/sre/sre-book/chapters/postmortem-culture/ https://landing.google.com/sre/sre-book/chapters/postmortem-...

stillLicksPenis 6y ago

So then your recommendation, really, is to just jump ship, and turn your back on useless pieces of shit, vindictively isolating them, and never looking back. Don't stand up and fight for what's right. Just turn tail and run, under any circumstances that put you in conflict with leadership and their footguns. Honey, flies, et c...

pmarreck 6y ago

So, the appeal to anonymous authority, I see

ethbro 6y ago

What if Y = ignorance?

jonfw 6y ago
Where are all of these managers out there running companies making decisions with literally no thought whatsoever? I've literally never seen them- I almost exclusively work with rational human beings who are able to justify decisions, and the few who aren't haven't been afforded any real power.
- ethbro 6y ago
  Mostly legacy industries. I don't want to indicate it's common. And typically gets weeded out by Director-level. But I've certainly seen more Top50 companies than not who have at least a few Manager / Sr Manager-level folks, in charge of key teams who own the sole keys to necessary functions, who are happy to say no to anything they're ignorant of, without any impetus to learn about it.