Or if you're John De Goes. He's basically had to create his own camp and projects. People will, still, try to burn everything he does down. They're dedicated an

Or if you're John De Goes. He's basically had to create his own camp and projects. People will, still, try to burn everything he does down. They're dedicated and they, the same ones, keep popping up every 2 months to remind everyone. Those people are pissed off because of things that happened in the past and they didn't like the speakers that were at conferences he ran. They never let it go.