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> [...] Harassment and other exclusionary behavior aren't acceptable -- LLVM COC Bold coming from a project that associates with Outreachy, an organization th

> [...] Harassment and other exclusionary behavior aren't acceptable -- LLVM COC Bold coming from a project that associates with Outreachy, an organization that intentionally and explicitly discriminates people based on their sex, nationality and ethnicity [0]. An important contributor left LLVM a few years ago because of that association, and I totally agree with him. [1] I would like a clause that says: The project will not discriminate people based on their {sex, ethnicity, etc.} or spend resources in iniciatives that discriminate people based on their {sex, ethnicity, etc}. [0] https://www.outreachy.org/apply/eligibility/ https://www.outreachy.org/apply/eligibility/ [1] https://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2018-May/122928.html https://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2018-May/122928.ht...

sigzero 6y ago
That's pretty much all under the "Be Welcoming" clause.
loeg 6y ago
> I would like a clause that says: The project will not discriminate people based on their {sex, ethnicity, etc.} It's already in there[1]: "Be welcoming. We strive to be a community that welcomes and supports people of all backgrounds and identities. This includes, but is not limited to members of any race, ethnicity, culture, national origin, colour, immigration status, social and economic class, educational level, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity and expression, age, size, family status, political belief, religion or lack thereof, and mental and physical ability." > or spend resources in iniciatives that discriminate people based on their {sex, ethnicity, etc}. The FreeBSD project doesn't have any money or resources to spend, so this is kind of moot. [1]: https://github.com/freebsd/core.10-public-docs/blob/master/CoC/llvm-based.md https://github.com/freebsd/core.10-public-docs/blob/master/C...
- wolfgke 6y ago
  A better formulation would be: "We simply do not care about your race, gender, culture, sex, nationality, ethnicity ... So don't talk about it on our mailing list. We instead care about making great software."
  - m0zg 6y ago
    Here come the downvotes. The current woke intelligentsia considers your statement to be "bigotry" in itself. For the record, I do agree with what you said, though. Downvotes notwithstanding. I view bringing up any of those topics in a professional environment as an equivalent of farting in a crowded elevator.

sigzero 6y ago

That's pretty much all under the "Be Welcoming" clause.

loeg 6y ago

> I would like a clause that says: The project will not discriminate people based on their {sex, ethnicity, etc.} It's already in there[1]: "Be welcoming. We strive to be a community that welcomes and supports people of all backgrounds and identities. This includes, but is not limited to members of any race, ethnicity, culture, national origin, colour, immigration status, social and economic class, educational level, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity and expression, age, size, family status, political belief, religion or lack thereof, and mental and physical ability." > or spend resources in iniciatives that discriminate people based on their {sex, ethnicity, etc}. The FreeBSD project doesn't have any money or resources to spend, so this is kind of moot. [1]: https://github.com/freebsd/core.10-public-docs/blob/master/CoC/llvm-based.md https://github.com/freebsd/core.10-public-docs/blob/master/C...

wolfgke 6y ago
A better formulation would be: "We simply do not care about your race, gender, culture, sex, nationality, ethnicity ... So don't talk about it on our mailing list. We instead care about making great software."
- m0zg 6y ago
  Here come the downvotes. The current woke intelligentsia considers your statement to be "bigotry" in itself. For the record, I do agree with what you said, though. Downvotes notwithstanding. I view bringing up any of those topics in a professional environment as an equivalent of farting in a crowded elevator.