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Part of the problem is that America's criminals are very well armed... and that's due to America allowing people to be armed.

the-dude 6y ago
I am just pointing out that even unarmed civilians will be a problem.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  It does not make sense to me that unarmed members of the public are more dangerous in the US than anywhere else.
  - tick_tock_tick 6y ago
    Whatever the reason be it cultural, environmental, or ?? the US violent crime rate even removing all gun related incidents is still significantly high then most other first world countries.
    - renewiltord 6y ago
      That's interesting to me. And this manifests in state workers who ask other people to stay 1.5 m apart encountering that violence? Fascinating.
  - the-dude 6y ago
    Did I say that?
    - renewiltord 6y ago
      Not precisely, but surely you understand that conversations frequently involve bringing up related thoughts and are not mere thrust and riposte. Or, alternatively, "Did I say that you said that?"
- JKCalhoun 6y ago
  Agree. Now imagine that the public have over 8 million (maybe as many as 15 million) semi-automatic "military-style" rifles. (These are the NRA's numbers, FWIW — I don't think anyone knows the number of AR-15s, etc. are in U.S. citizens possession.)
  - leetcrew 6y ago
    I'm not sure what relevance the number of civilian-owned rifles ("military-style" or otherwise) has to the daily life of a police officer. concealable weapons (mainly pistols) are of much greater concern when interacting with the public.
    - lostmsu 6y ago
      Haven't seen the actual numbers, but I would imagine many police encounters are actually home calls.
    - JKCalhoun 6y ago
      Yes, I think semi-auto pistols (concealed or otherwise) are likely a bigger concern for police for things like traffic stops. I can't seem to find the number of semi-automatic pistols, only the larger number of firearms (all types) — thought to be close to or over 300 Million in the U.S.
KorematsuFred 6y ago
Criminals arm themselves no matter what. I would rather be armed than helpless in front of such criminals.
- chrischen 6y ago
  Right so if you disarm the police then you have someone even less powerful and trained than an average citizen with a gun.
staticassertion 6y ago
I think the bigger problem is that we completely underfund mental health, education, and community oriented programs, and then ask an armed police force to pick up the slack.

the-dude 6y ago

I am just pointing out that even unarmed civilians will be a problem.

renewiltord 6y ago
It does not make sense to me that unarmed members of the public are more dangerous in the US than anywhere else.
- tick_tock_tick 6y ago
  Whatever the reason be it cultural, environmental, or ?? the US violent crime rate even removing all gun related incidents is still significantly high then most other first world countries.
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    That's interesting to me. And this manifests in state workers who ask other people to stay 1.5 m apart encountering that violence? Fascinating.
- the-dude 6y ago
  Did I say that?
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    Not precisely, but surely you understand that conversations frequently involve bringing up related thoughts and are not mere thrust and riposte. Or, alternatively, "Did I say that you said that?"
JKCalhoun 6y ago
Agree. Now imagine that the public have over 8 million (maybe as many as 15 million) semi-automatic "military-style" rifles. (These are the NRA's numbers, FWIW — I don't think anyone knows the number of AR-15s, etc. are in U.S. citizens possession.)
- leetcrew 6y ago
  I'm not sure what relevance the number of civilian-owned rifles ("military-style" or otherwise) has to the daily life of a police officer. concealable weapons (mainly pistols) are of much greater concern when interacting with the public.
  - lostmsu 6y ago
    Haven't seen the actual numbers, but I would imagine many police encounters are actually home calls.
  - JKCalhoun 6y ago
    Yes, I think semi-auto pistols (concealed or otherwise) are likely a bigger concern for police for things like traffic stops. I can't seem to find the number of semi-automatic pistols, only the larger number of firearms (all types) — thought to be close to or over 300 Million in the U.S.

KorematsuFred 6y ago

Criminals arm themselves no matter what. I would rather be armed than helpless in front of such criminals.

chrischen 6y ago
Right so if you disarm the police then you have someone even less powerful and trained than an average citizen with a gun.

staticassertion 6y ago

I think the bigger problem is that we completely underfund mental health, education, and community oriented programs, and then ask an armed police force to pick up the slack.