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I had Haiku installed for a while. I think it could be a pretty effective daily driver as-is, depending on what you need to do in your daily driving. (If you'r

I had Haiku installed for a while. I think it could be a pretty effective daily driver as-is, depending on what you need to do in your daily driving. (If you're a Peruvian long-haul mountain bus driver and failed to reveal that in your pre-qualification, then that's on you...)

AsyncAwait 6y ago
What's the hardware support like?
- themodelplumber 6y ago
  No idea really, except that I ran it on an old netbook, plugged in an external monitor and mouse, and that specific set of things worked great. This is what led me to install it rather than just running from the USB disk.
- taborj 6y ago
  Running it on a USB stick will give you a great idea about hardware support.
- bebop 6y ago
  It’s pretty good if you do not have an exotic setup. Intel graphics are the best supported, but the vesa driver works well for a lot of cards. I don’t think there is an nvme driver (someone correct me if I am wrong), but the sata driver works well.
  - waddlesplash 6y ago
    Uh, if you read the release notes linked from this news item, it would have told you there is a NVMe driver.
    - bebop 6y ago
      My mistake, thanks for the correction.
- bebop 6y ago
  Also the WiFi stack is ported from FreeBSD, so you can try and look there to see if your card would work. Although a boot usb is probably quicker and more fun
taborj 6y ago
I concur, it's nearly there for me. On my old Dell Inspiron 3847 (my daily driver), the only hardware that didn't work right was audio through HDMI, and bluetooth didn't find my mouse (though it did find my BT headphones). I can probably get to the bottom of those with a bit of digging. The software side I didn't dig into much yet. I use my system for ham radio, so I would be compiling a lot of software in the future, some of it dependent on hardware things. Not sure how well that'll work, but I'm honestly willing to give it a try. The biggest annoyance for me is the lack of a plug-in capable web browser; specifically having Bitwarden in the browser. I'll have to investigate if there's a solution.
- extro 6y ago
  > audio through HDMI, and bluetooth didn't find my mouse Both unsupported.
charlesdaniels 6y ago
Sadly for my work I need various proprietary programs like Matlab, Quartus, and Vivado. Not a chance of those ever being ported to Haiku. I know it has Python, but I would suspect it probably has some limitations which respect to Python libraries that have C extensions, which is surprisingly many of them.
- phlakaton 6y ago
  Like later versions of BeOS, it looks like Haiku still supports the gcc compiler chain, so things may not be hopeless.
  - bebop 6y ago
    There are essentially 3 flavors of haiku. Gcc2 for beos compatibility, gcc8 32 bit and gcc8 64 bit. LLVM I think can also compile the source but is not an official build as of now. I am a casual lurker so my details should be taken with a grain of salt.
  - charlesdaniels 6y ago
    I actually checked after I wrote that comment -- Haiku does ship numpy in their repos. That seems to be one of the harder Python libraries to get working, so they must be doing something right.

AsyncAwait 6y ago

What's the hardware support like?

themodelplumber 6y ago
No idea really, except that I ran it on an old netbook, plugged in an external monitor and mouse, and that specific set of things worked great. This is what led me to install it rather than just running from the USB disk.
taborj 6y ago
Running it on a USB stick will give you a great idea about hardware support.
bebop 6y ago
It’s pretty good if you do not have an exotic setup. Intel graphics are the best supported, but the vesa driver works well for a lot of cards. I don’t think there is an nvme driver (someone correct me if I am wrong), but the sata driver works well.
- waddlesplash 6y ago
  Uh, if you read the release notes linked from this news item, it would have told you there is a NVMe driver.
  - bebop 6y ago
    My mistake, thanks for the correction.
bebop 6y ago
Also the WiFi stack is ported from FreeBSD, so you can try and look there to see if your card would work. Although a boot usb is probably quicker and more fun

taborj 6y ago

I concur, it's nearly there for me. On my old Dell Inspiron 3847 (my daily driver), the only hardware that didn't work right was audio through HDMI, and bluetooth didn't find my mouse (though it did find my BT headphones). I can probably get to the bottom of those with a bit of digging. The software side I didn't dig into much yet. I use my system for ham radio, so I would be compiling a lot of software in the future, some of it dependent on hardware things. Not sure how well that'll work, but I'm honestly willing to give it a try. The biggest annoyance for me is the lack of a plug-in capable web browser; specifically having Bitwarden in the browser. I'll have to investigate if there's a solution.

extro 6y ago
> audio through HDMI, and bluetooth didn't find my mouse Both unsupported.

charlesdaniels 6y ago

Sadly for my work I need various proprietary programs like Matlab, Quartus, and Vivado. Not a chance of those ever being ported to Haiku. I know it has Python, but I would suspect it probably has some limitations which respect to Python libraries that have C extensions, which is surprisingly many of them.

phlakaton 6y ago
Like later versions of BeOS, it looks like Haiku still supports the gcc compiler chain, so things may not be hopeless.
- bebop 6y ago
  There are essentially 3 flavors of haiku. Gcc2 for beos compatibility, gcc8 32 bit and gcc8 64 bit. LLVM I think can also compile the source but is not an official build as of now. I am a casual lurker so my details should be taken with a grain of salt.
- charlesdaniels 6y ago
  I actually checked after I wrote that comment -- Haiku does ship numpy in their repos. That seems to be one of the harder Python libraries to get working, so they must be doing something right.