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X == Apache httpd 2.4

by jimjag 6y ago

SEJeff 6y ago
I was thinking the exact same thing ironically. Static file serving? Sure! Load balanced proxying? mod_proxy_balancer is great! Fine grained caching? mod_disk_cache is also great Updating loadbalancer bits via the api? mod_proxy_balancer supports a balancer-manager endpoint for that to do live updates monitoring? mod_status + prometheus exporter or mod_prometheus_status native LE support? https://github.com/icing/mod_md https://github.com/icing/mod_md is going to be rolled into upstream apache
- cyberpunk 6y ago
  Have you actually seen an apache in the wild in the last few years? No one picks it anymore, I'm not sure why.. Well, besides the fact that nginx is now nginx-ingress-controller and we all use k8.. :/
  - TechBro8615 6y ago
    Maybe it‘s due to guilt-by-association with PHP and the LAMP stack...
  - jldugger 6y ago
    Yes, but I know some of the apache.org SRE so maybe my view is biased.
    - SEJeff 6y ago
      The most amazing guy who wrote the book on mod_rewrite (Rich Bowen) is from the same tiny town where I grew up in. The apache software foundation upstream folks are super good people.
  - mekster 6y ago
    I still use it to have basic auth connected to LDAP. The weakness of nginx is that it can't have a dynamic module and if it's not compiled in, you need to roll your own build, which I won't do due to maintenance burden.
  - jimjag 6y ago
    Why does no one pick it anymore? The reason is twofold: (1) the amount of FUD that surrounds it, based on old comparisons of nginx and Apache httpd 1.3 or 2.x using Prefork and (2) cool-kid syndrome. This thread itself is a perfect example.
  - SEJeff 6y ago
    Apache still runs some really big websites that likely have more requests than many of these startups. Ticketmaster has used Apache for almost 15 years as their primary webserver (but they're fronted by layers of varnish / Akamai). They also maxed out dual 10G links with web traffic in 2007 or so when I worked for them. That said, netcraft says Apache still runs almost 25% of the internet, which is no small stake: https://news.netcraft.com/archives/category/web-server-survey/ https://news.netcraft.com/archives/category/web-server-surve...
- fomine3 6y ago
  mod_md is already on upstream. https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_md.html https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_md.html

X == Apache httpd 2.4

by jimjag 6y ago

X == Apache httpd 2.4

I was thinking the exact same thing ironically. Static file serving? Sure! Load balanced proxying? mod_proxy_balancer is great! Fine grained caching? mod_disk_cache is also great Updating loadbalancer bits via the api? mod_proxy_balancer supports a balancer-manager endpoint for that to do live updates monitoring? mod_status + prometheus exporter or mod_prometheus_status native LE support? https://github.com/icing/mod_md https://github.com/icing/mod_md is going to be rolled into upstream apache

cyberpunk 6y ago
Have you actually seen an apache in the wild in the last few years? No one picks it anymore, I'm not sure why.. Well, besides the fact that nginx is now nginx-ingress-controller and we all use k8.. :/
- TechBro8615 6y ago
  Maybe it‘s due to guilt-by-association with PHP and the LAMP stack...
- jldugger 6y ago
  Yes, but I know some of the apache.org SRE so maybe my view is biased.
  - SEJeff 6y ago
    The most amazing guy who wrote the book on mod_rewrite (Rich Bowen) is from the same tiny town where I grew up in. The apache software foundation upstream folks are super good people.
- mekster 6y ago
  I still use it to have basic auth connected to LDAP. The weakness of nginx is that it can't have a dynamic module and if it's not compiled in, you need to roll your own build, which I won't do due to maintenance burden.
- jimjag 6y ago
  Why does no one pick it anymore? The reason is twofold: (1) the amount of FUD that surrounds it, based on old comparisons of nginx and Apache httpd 1.3 or 2.x using Prefork and (2) cool-kid syndrome. This thread itself is a perfect example.
- SEJeff 6y ago
  Apache still runs some really big websites that likely have more requests than many of these startups. Ticketmaster has used Apache for almost 15 years as their primary webserver (but they're fronted by layers of varnish / Akamai). They also maxed out dual 10G links with web traffic in 2007 or so when I worked for them. That said, netcraft says Apache still runs almost 25% of the internet, which is no small stake: https://news.netcraft.com/archives/category/web-server-survey/ https://news.netcraft.com/archives/category/web-server-surve...
fomine3 6y ago
mod_md is already on upstream. https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_md.html https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_md.html