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to the point that any business should be. as in, if they take reasonable precautions I am all for any business being opened. it is far easier to contain the iss

to the point that any business should be. as in, if they take reasonable precautions I am all for any business being opened. it is far easier to contain the issue in a factory floor than the supermarket many will be in on their way home. that is the lunacy of the closings, they lack logic, as in rules being used and implied risk against other types of businesses opening have been glossed over for those already deemed essential.

twblalock 6y ago
> that is the lunacy of the closings, they lack logic, as in rules being used and implied risk against other types of businesses opening have been glossed over for those already deemed essential. Musk was one of the few business owners to seriously push back against local authorities who made unjustifiable restrictions. More people would be grateful to him for doing that if he wasn't so ridiculous in other aspects of his public life.
jlebar 6y ago
> if they take reasonable precautions Who decides what's reasonable? To me, "reasonable" might mean, "precautions that minimize unnecessary risk to human morbidity and mortality". Even if we were to agree on this, what do "minimize" and "unnecessary" mean? And how do we take into account second-order effects, like, maybe my workplace is primarily young people and there's relatively low risk of long-term harm, but my employees might spread the virus in the community... > it is far easier to contain the issue in a factory floor than the supermarket Although this claim has some logic to it, I'm not sure it is actually true. See the outbreaks at meatpacking plants, https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/06/08/cache-valley-providing/ https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/06/08/cache-valley-providin..., https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/08/us/meat-processing-plants-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/08/us/meat-proce... That's the thing about this novel virus. There is a lot of uncertainty. These are all hard questions. I'm not pretending that health officials have uniformly made the right call, or even good calls. I am saying that if you think it's as simple as stating the policy "let anyone taking reasonable precautions open for business", I have a bridge to sell you.
- twblalock 6y ago
  > I'm not pretending that health officials have uniformly made the right call, or even good calls. Good, then don't pretend that it's wrong to push back when health officials inconsistently apply their rules and cannot justify them when challenged.

twblalock 6y ago

> that is the lunacy of the closings, they lack logic, as in rules being used and implied risk against other types of businesses opening have been glossed over for those already deemed essential. Musk was one of the few business owners to seriously push back against local authorities who made unjustifiable restrictions. More people would be grateful to him for doing that if he wasn't so ridiculous in other aspects of his public life.

jlebar 6y ago

> if they take reasonable precautions Who decides what's reasonable? To me, "reasonable" might mean, "precautions that minimize unnecessary risk to human morbidity and mortality". Even if we were to agree on this, what do "minimize" and "unnecessary" mean? And how do we take into account second-order effects, like, maybe my workplace is primarily young people and there's relatively low risk of long-term harm, but my employees might spread the virus in the community... > it is far easier to contain the issue in a factory floor than the supermarket Although this claim has some logic to it, I'm not sure it is actually true. See the outbreaks at meatpacking plants, https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/06/08/cache-valley-providing/ https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/06/08/cache-valley-providin..., https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/08/us/meat-processing-plants-coronavirus.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/06/08/us/meat-proce... That's the thing about this novel virus. There is a lot of uncertainty. These are all hard questions. I'm not pretending that health officials have uniformly made the right call, or even good calls. I am saying that if you think it's as simple as stating the policy "let anyone taking reasonable precautions open for business", I have a bridge to sell you.

twblalock 6y ago
> I'm not pretending that health officials have uniformly made the right call, or even good calls. Good, then don't pretend that it's wrong to push back when health officials inconsistently apply their rules and cannot justify them when challenged.