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Yeah, I'm thinking about trialing FreeBSD for both that and having better man pages (Linux's are so incredibly bad). OpenBSD seems even nicer but I also like ha

Yeah, I'm thinking about trialing FreeBSD for both that and having better man pages (Linux's are so incredibly bad). OpenBSD seems even nicer but I also like having, you know, software and drivers that Just Work™, which already seems like it might be a problem on FreeBSD. I haven't enjoyed using desktop Linux since like 2008 (it is not a coincidence that this is about when Poettering started to influence major distros with his NIH-motivated bloatware) and have puttered along on macOS for the last decade or so—a change is probably due, I'm just not sure there exists what I want, really. We'll see. I'm rocking Void now and it's... fine, I guess. Kinda.

owenmarshall 6y ago
> OpenBSD seems even nicer but I also like having, you know, software and drivers that Just Work™, which already seems like it might be a problem on FreeBSD. It obviously depends on what you're using, but don't discount it without glancing at driver support: I've had it running quite nicely on a handful of laptops – typically older Thinkpads and Dells – and the "just work" factor of the overall OS is through the roof.
- enriquto 6y ago
  Have you noticed any problems with cpu throttling or hibernation? This is what I'm most afraid about switching to openbsd on my laptop (Dell precision).
  - owenmarshall 6y ago
    Just works on my Thinkpad x220. You should, however, look for a dmesg output referencing your system and see if anyone has reported bugs. Power management is universally evil ;-)
cabite 6y ago
FreeBSD "just works" but you have to enable everything. If you plug a mouse, you'll have to enable usbmod (or whatever kernel module is responsible for this) by hand. Maybe I'm exaggerating with that mouse anecdote, but I remember I regretted not going with PCBSD which is a user friendly distrib of FreeBSD (now renamed TrueOS). If you consider using Freebsd as an everyday desktop computer, you'll save some time with TrueOS. Having said that, configuring FreeBSD, activating kernel modules etc, is really easy, both in terms of googlability and inner clarity. Probably because it's a distrib in itself, as compared to linux and its many subtle differences across distribs.
LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
Undeadly.org DRM update committed Contributed by Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd on 2020-06-08 from the faster pixels dept. Jonathan Gray (jsg@) has just committed an update to the DRM code to the tree. This update brings support for newer AMD and Intel graphics parts. [1] https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20200608075708 https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20200608075708

owenmarshall 6y ago

> OpenBSD seems even nicer but I also like having, you know, software and drivers that Just Work™, which already seems like it might be a problem on FreeBSD. It obviously depends on what you're using, but don't discount it without glancing at driver support: I've had it running quite nicely on a handful of laptops – typically older Thinkpads and Dells – and the "just work" factor of the overall OS is through the roof.

enriquto 6y ago
Have you noticed any problems with cpu throttling or hibernation? This is what I'm most afraid about switching to openbsd on my laptop (Dell precision).
- owenmarshall 6y ago
  Just works on my Thinkpad x220. You should, however, look for a dmesg output referencing your system and see if anyone has reported bugs. Power management is universally evil ;-)

cabite 6y ago

FreeBSD "just works" but you have to enable everything. If you plug a mouse, you'll have to enable usbmod (or whatever kernel module is responsible for this) by hand. Maybe I'm exaggerating with that mouse anecdote, but I remember I regretted not going with PCBSD which is a user friendly distrib of FreeBSD (now renamed TrueOS). If you consider using Freebsd as an everyday desktop computer, you'll save some time with TrueOS. Having said that, configuring FreeBSD, activating kernel modules etc, is really easy, both in terms of googlability and inner clarity. Probably because it's a distrib in itself, as compared to linux and its many subtle differences across distribs.

LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago

Undeadly.org DRM update committed Contributed by Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd on 2020-06-08 from the faster pixels dept. Jonathan Gray (jsg@) has just committed an update to the DRM code to the tree. This update brings support for newer AMD and Intel graphics parts. [1] https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20200608075708 https://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article;sid=20200608075708