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The Star-Spangled Banner's third verse

8 points by barbe 6y ago

eqvinox 6y ago
Still better than the German national anthem, which is the 3rd verse of a poem whose 1st verse is outlawed as nazi paraphernalia... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied "Germany, Germany above all, [...]" [edit: this is only intended to point this out as a "similar curiosity"; both are quite questionable in current times.]
eesmith 6y ago
I learned about "the gloom of the grave" from, of all things, Asimov's short story "No Refuge Could Save" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Refuge_Could_Save https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Refuge_Could_Save > While questioning a suspected German spy, he performed a word association test on him. When Griswold said "terror of flight," the suspect replied, "gloom of the grave." This was evidence that he was a spy who had been trained up in Americanisms, since the two phrases allude to a line in the third verse of "The Star-Spangled Banner" and no native-born American could possibly be familiar with the third verse of the national anthem ("except for me, and I know everything," added Griswold). I never put the context together to realize it was talking about threatening to return free people to slavery. More Wikipedia context about these lines at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner#slave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner#slave . That page also mentions the NAACP call to remove the national anthem/
pcunite 6y ago
The third verse is expressing this sentiment: "neither a hired hitman or a person forced into attacking us will win. They will both meet a gloomy end while the banner continues to wave triumphantly over any and all who oppose". Its a very grim reminder of the horrors of war. It took a lot to create the nation of America. It was very costly to also bring about the freedom of all people. America set a precedent for the rest of the world to follow. A good rendition: https://youtu.be/N_lCmBvYMRs https://youtu.be/N_lCmBvYMRs

8 points by barbe 6y ago

Still better than the German national anthem, which is the 3rd verse of a poem whose 1st verse is outlawed as nazi paraphernalia... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschlandlied "Germany, Germany above all, [...]" [edit: this is only intended to point this out as a "similar curiosity"; both are quite questionable in current times.]

eesmith 6y ago

I learned about "the gloom of the grave" from, of all things, Asimov's short story "No Refuge Could Save" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Refuge_Could_Save https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Refuge_Could_Save > While questioning a suspected German spy, he performed a word association test on him. When Griswold said "terror of flight," the suspect replied, "gloom of the grave." This was evidence that he was a spy who had been trained up in Americanisms, since the two phrases allude to a line in the third verse of "The Star-Spangled Banner" and no native-born American could possibly be familiar with the third verse of the national anthem ("except for me, and I know everything," added Griswold). I never put the context together to realize it was talking about threatening to return free people to slavery. More Wikipedia context about these lines at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner#slave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star-Spangled_Banner#slave . That page also mentions the NAACP call to remove the national anthem/

pcunite 6y ago

The third verse is expressing this sentiment: "neither a hired hitman or a person forced into attacking us will win. They will both meet a gloomy end while the banner continues to wave triumphantly over any and all who oppose". Its a very grim reminder of the horrors of war. It took a lot to create the nation of America. It was very costly to also bring about the freedom of all people. America set a precedent for the rest of the world to follow. A good rendition: https://youtu.be/N_lCmBvYMRs https://youtu.be/N_lCmBvYMRs