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I’d support windows in a heartbeat, if they would stop treating users as the product (by showing ads and tracking them). This even extends to the Pro version. A

by emsy 6y ago

I’d support windows in a heartbeat, if they would stop treating users as the product (by showing ads and tracking them). This even extends to the Pro version. Also, they should just remove the new settings UI. It’s confusing.

eknkc 6y ago
I haven’t seen any ads yet. Might be geographic though. Also setup asked about some tracking stuff and I said no but haven’t done any research to see how they treat it.
- emsy 6y ago
  Usually you'll have ads for OneDrive (unless you already use it). And things like Candy Crush preinstalled.
  - Mandatum 6y ago
    https://old.reddit.com/r/TronScript/ https://old.reddit.com/r/TronScript/ or https://wpd.app https://wpd.app or https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 Shutup10 is the best AIO, most tested tool I have found for Windows 10 that doesn't break stuff. There's also custom ISO's with binaries and entire product suites removed which may break some stuff that runs on Windows 10 (eg requiring the Store for some games) - but I'm not comfortable with the level of transparency custom ISO's offer, so I don't do this: https://ameliorated.info/ https://ameliorated.info/ My recommendations is to get a copy of Windows 10 LTSC (which doesn't include Candy Crush etc) and run shutup10 on it for your work environment. It's the least risky option for an every day driver.
    - emsy 6y ago
      Thanks for the recommendations. I used a similar tool when I first installed Win 10 and it worked well until one of the bigger updates got installed and removed most of my fixes.
      - Mandatum 6y ago
        I think the ISO's purpose was to remove Windows Updates for that reason. You need to run these tools semi-regularly, at least after updates, to ensure Microsoft hasn't re-enabled stuff. Which they do. All the damn time. You can use /quiet and /force flags on shutup10 and create a scheduled task to re-run it occasionally.
schoolornot 6y ago
I'm returning a Surface today due to the egregious telemetry and additional upgrade fee they charge for full disk encryption/Bitlocker. I counted six toggles related to tracking that were enabled by default in the OOBE. Forget one toggle and you'll spend 20 minutes digging through Control Panel for it. The "NEW" Microsoft, right.

by emsy 6y ago

eknkc 6y ago

I haven’t seen any ads yet. Might be geographic though. Also setup asked about some tracking stuff and I said no but haven’t done any research to see how they treat it.

emsy 6y ago
Usually you'll have ads for OneDrive (unless you already use it). And things like Candy Crush preinstalled.
- Mandatum 6y ago
  https://old.reddit.com/r/TronScript/ https://old.reddit.com/r/TronScript/ or https://wpd.app https://wpd.app or https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 Shutup10 is the best AIO, most tested tool I have found for Windows 10 that doesn't break stuff. There's also custom ISO's with binaries and entire product suites removed which may break some stuff that runs on Windows 10 (eg requiring the Store for some games) - but I'm not comfortable with the level of transparency custom ISO's offer, so I don't do this: https://ameliorated.info/ https://ameliorated.info/ My recommendations is to get a copy of Windows 10 LTSC (which doesn't include Candy Crush etc) and run shutup10 on it for your work environment. It's the least risky option for an every day driver.
  - emsy 6y ago
    Thanks for the recommendations. I used a similar tool when I first installed Win 10 and it worked well until one of the bigger updates got installed and removed most of my fixes.
    - Mandatum 6y ago
      I think the ISO's purpose was to remove Windows Updates for that reason. You need to run these tools semi-regularly, at least after updates, to ensure Microsoft hasn't re-enabled stuff. Which they do. All the damn time. You can use /quiet and /force flags on shutup10 and create a scheduled task to re-run it occasionally.

schoolornot 6y ago

I'm returning a Surface today due to the egregious telemetry and additional upgrade fee they charge for full disk encryption/Bitlocker. I counted six toggles related to tracking that were enabled by default in the OOBE. Forget one toggle and you'll spend 20 minutes digging through Control Panel for it. The "NEW" Microsoft, right.