It requires jvm. But you don't have to interact with java, sometimes its easier to just use a particular java library, but many people report never having to to

It requires jvm. But you don't have to interact with java, sometimes its easier to just use a particular java library, but many people report never having to touch java. JVM seems like a nice to have, a lot of the standard java tooling works for clojure as well (profilers and what not).