> I used normal blue/green deployments on self-managed VMs in the past, then worked with beanstalk, heroku, appengine and I much prefer k8s. Yes it's easier on

> I used normal blue/green deployments on self-managed VMs in the past, then worked with beanstalk, heroku, appengine and I much prefer k8s. Yes it's easier on heroku, but try to run 2-3 different containers on the same dyno for dev to keep cost down. On k8s I can run my entire stack on one single small digitalocean $10 VM if I wanted to. So you already spend about a decade learning all the skills. What the other guy is talking about coming from dev not from ops. If you come from dev you don't necessarily know what an ingress or egress is, and might never have done a blue/green deployment etc. This is all stuff that needs to be learned first. I worked with many many teams who had zero skills in data center tech before they were moved to k8s full time. I personally like it to learn all that stuff. And I love that my job requires it now. But it's more like vim than like node-red, and that was a shock for many people, from engineer to EVP.