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Given the progress, depth, and variety of iOS games, it's probably not a massive concern to Apple, no? There'll be some enforced pain on OSX game developers, bu

Given the progress, depth, and variety of iOS games, it's probably not a massive concern to Apple, no? There'll be some enforced pain on OSX game developers, but from a "majority" user perspective, they'll probably be able to turn on a big enough library of titles that it'll make no difference (and arguably be better).

jfkebwjsbx 6y ago
How are mobile games relevant? There is a huge gap in gameplay, complexity and whatnot between desktop/laptop/console games to those in phones.
- wastedhours 6y ago
  We're talking about Apple's transition to ARM here - it makes perfect sense to compare iOS games to OSX games, given the relative improvements in iOS gaming and their running on ARM. Apple's consideration about gaming will be "we have this massive catalogue of titles customers can play already here that we've been marketing, investing in, and pushing for years (and which get us a nice 30% cut of profits...)" > huge gap in gameplay, complexity and whatnot between desktop/laptop/console games to those in phones I made no judgement on that, simply that Apple's rationale for gaming is going to be based on the millions of ARM optimised titles they already have ready for the jump. The mobile gaming market is a lot bigger than the desktop gaming market for Apple - expecting that to not have an out-weighted influence on their decision making is absurd.
  - Mindwipe 6y ago
    Why don't those titles have a bigger representation on MacOS now given Catalyst? The answer is that they're not the right types of title for the Mac demographic, and that the business model isn't there to justify the porting costs (and moving to ARM does very little reduce those, which are mostly UX related).
- jki275 6y ago
  I wouldn't call gaming relevant in the macOS sphere at all, really. Certainly in the mobile sphere it is, but there's not really any crossover to desktop OS X. There are games that run on OS X , but even for me as a relatively hardcore OS X type, I go sit down at my Windows 10 desktop machine when I want to game.

jfkebwjsbx 6y ago

How are mobile games relevant? There is a huge gap in gameplay, complexity and whatnot between desktop/laptop/console games to those in phones.

wastedhours 6y ago
We're talking about Apple's transition to ARM here - it makes perfect sense to compare iOS games to OSX games, given the relative improvements in iOS gaming and their running on ARM. Apple's consideration about gaming will be "we have this massive catalogue of titles customers can play already here that we've been marketing, investing in, and pushing for years (and which get us a nice 30% cut of profits...)" > huge gap in gameplay, complexity and whatnot between desktop/laptop/console games to those in phones I made no judgement on that, simply that Apple's rationale for gaming is going to be based on the millions of ARM optimised titles they already have ready for the jump. The mobile gaming market is a lot bigger than the desktop gaming market for Apple - expecting that to not have an out-weighted influence on their decision making is absurd.
- Mindwipe 6y ago
  Why don't those titles have a bigger representation on MacOS now given Catalyst? The answer is that they're not the right types of title for the Mac demographic, and that the business model isn't there to justify the porting costs (and moving to ARM does very little reduce those, which are mostly UX related).
jki275 6y ago
I wouldn't call gaming relevant in the macOS sphere at all, really. Certainly in the mobile sphere it is, but there's not really any crossover to desktop OS X. There are games that run on OS X , but even for me as a relatively hardcore OS X type, I go sit down at my Windows 10 desktop machine when I want to game.