5 ms·
So we agree that the UK system works much better. Both less police and less civilians killed.
by ric2b 6y ago
So we agree that the UK system works much better. Both less police and less civilians killed.
- gridlockd 6y agoNo, we don't. For comparison, in Germany, a slightly larger country, where officers are armed, less than one officer per year died in the past decade: https://www.dw.com/en/two-german-police-officers-killed-by-fleeing-murder-suspect-in-brandenburg/a-37749390 https://www.dw.com/en/two-german-police-officers-killed-by-f... If officers don't engage because they are insufficiently equipped, you effectively have less policing. Less policing causes more violence and more deaths. "Stop and frisk" works: https://www.npr.org/2012/05/15/152764402/stop-and-frisk-works-but-its-problematic?t=1591702388939 https://www.npr.org/2012/05/15/152764402/stop-and-frisk-work... Knife crime in the UK keeps going up... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-42749089 ...as a result of literally defunding the police: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/02/criminals-going-unpunished-because-of-cuts-says-police-chief https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/may/02/criminals-go...
- throwaway93132 6y agohttps://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kin... Why pick out a random statistic like knife crime? It sucks, but matters much less than the following statistics: US has 4 times more intentional homicide rate vs. UK. US has 18 times more murder rate vs. UK. I think the evidence is quite clear that the UK with police that are less heavily armed have better crime statistics, fewer police deaths, AND fewer civilian deaths caused by police.