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20 to 40 hours per page? That absolutely baffles me. I used to freelance design, was charging $100+ per hour, but that's based on the fact that a 1 page website

20 to 40 hours per page? That absolutely baffles me. I used to freelance design, was charging $100+ per hour, but that's based on the fact that a 1 page website would be around $1000 (10 or so hours to nail down a wireframe/design/build the CSS framework) then 4 or so hours per page after, depending on how intense they are. I'm not a super duper awesome designer though, but 20-40 hours per page seems absolutely ridiculous. As for finding a designer, I know of people who ping startups and ask them who did their websites, then if they used a freelancer, they'd set up an intro. Perhaps try that, and you'll reach designers more used to working with cash-strapped startups.

limedaring 16y ago
Another idea: Can you scrounge up a design on your own? Yes, it won't be awesome/perfect/high-converting (for now), but you'll get your app out and eyes looking at it before worrying about the perfect design. After it's launched, you can start iterating on the design on your own, as well as worrying about getting a professional designer. Whatever you have to do to launch quickly, imho.
patio11 16y ago
You can chew an arbitrarily large amount of time at a large corporation if your decision making process requires more than one signature. A high end bespoke firm builds this into all estimates. *That's great Lime, but does it really connect with the marketing message? Maybe if you added a bit more "pop" to it. Also, wouldn't it be better if it were teal?"
- limedaring 16y ago
  I'm lucky that all of my clients have been startups or individuals. Looks like the OP needs to go for designers more accustomed to this, rather than high-end firms. (My last salaried job: "Why is there so much space left empty? We can fit a ton more information above the fold if we fill it up." ...never, ever, working at a place like that again.)
- ot 16y ago
  > *That's great Lime, but does it really connect with the marketing message? Maybe if you added a bit more "pop" to it. Also, wouldn't it be better if it were teal?" For an explanation of "pop", see: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell

limedaring 16y ago

Another idea: Can you scrounge up a design on your own? Yes, it won't be awesome/perfect/high-converting (for now), but you'll get your app out and eyes looking at it before worrying about the perfect design. After it's launched, you can start iterating on the design on your own, as well as worrying about getting a professional designer. Whatever you have to do to launch quickly, imho.

patio11 16y ago

You can chew an arbitrarily large amount of time at a large corporation if your decision making process requires more than one signature. A high end bespoke firm builds this into all estimates. *That's great Lime, but does it really connect with the marketing message? Maybe if you added a bit more "pop" to it. Also, wouldn't it be better if it were teal?"

limedaring 16y ago
I'm lucky that all of my clients have been startups or individuals. Looks like the OP needs to go for designers more accustomed to this, rather than high-end firms. (My last salaried job: "Why is there so much space left empty? We can fit a ton more information above the fold if we fill it up." ...never, ever, working at a place like that again.)
ot 16y ago
> *That's great Lime, but does it really connect with the marketing message? Maybe if you added a bit more "pop" to it. Also, wouldn't it be better if it were teal?" For an explanation of "pop", see: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell