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Anecdata, an old relative of mine died of pneumonia earlier this year. My relative did not test positive for influenza despite having flu like symptoms for two

Anecdata, an old relative of mine died of pneumonia earlier this year. My relative did not test positive for influenza despite having flu like symptoms for two weeks prior. The local hospital’s ICU was overwhelmed with patients having the same symptoms. This was in January. COVID was not on the local radar. But this was in a senior citizen community town, so overwhelmed hospitals aren’t really newsworthy. And I personally only entertain the idea it was COVID-19, but it doesn’t make sense because the dates are all wrong. Then articles like this make me wonder, what if it swept by undetected? Were the most vulnerable communities already hit and we didn’t notice? Could that happen?

cryptonym 6y ago
Athletes from military world games (Wuhan - October 2019) claim they contracted COVID, spreading the virus when they went back home.
- alkonaut 6y ago
  A group of Athletes from Sweden suspected they did, as several had symptoms after returning. However, they now all tested negative. If they had tested positive now, that would have been big news.
  - mikemotherwell 6y ago
    For antibodies or the disease?
    - alkonaut 6y ago
      Antibodies. The test was months later so the chance of finding something in PCR would be small.
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javagram 6y ago
CDC tracks pneumonia deaths across the entire United States through two separate systems. It couldn’t sweep by undetected. When we actually got hit by coronavirus hard, alarms starting blaring immediately both in local health department stats and in CDC FluView which tracks “influenza-like illnesses” and pneumonia mortality. 1. CDC FluView data - the coronavirus outbreak in the United States is clearly visible as an historically large spike of pneumonia mortality. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm 2. New York city’s own surveillance system “ While only about 100 cases of the coronavirus had been confirmed in the whole state, the city’s surveillance system was, by the end of the first week in March, signaling a spike in influenza-like illnesses at emergency rooms. A few days later, the number of police officers calling out sick jumped noticeably, as did calls to 911 for fever and cough.“ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-response-delays.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/nyregion/new-york-coronav...

cryptonym 6y ago

Athletes from military world games (Wuhan - October 2019) claim they contracted COVID, spreading the virus when they went back home.

alkonaut 6y ago
A group of Athletes from Sweden suspected they did, as several had symptoms after returning. However, they now all tested negative. If they had tested positive now, that would have been big news.
- mikemotherwell 6y ago
  For antibodies or the disease?
  - alkonaut 6y ago
    Antibodies. The test was months later so the chance of finding something in PCR would be small.
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]

javagram 6y ago

CDC tracks pneumonia deaths across the entire United States through two separate systems. It couldn’t sweep by undetected. When we actually got hit by coronavirus hard, alarms starting blaring immediately both in local health department stats and in CDC FluView which tracks “influenza-like illnesses” and pneumonia mortality. 1. CDC FluView data - the coronavirus outbreak in the United States is clearly visible as an historically large spike of pneumonia mortality. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm 2. New York city’s own surveillance system “ While only about 100 cases of the coronavirus had been confirmed in the whole state, the city’s surveillance system was, by the end of the first week in March, signaling a spike in influenza-like illnesses at emergency rooms. A few days later, the number of police officers calling out sick jumped noticeably, as did calls to 911 for fever and cough.“ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus-response-delays.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/08/nyregion/new-york-coronav...