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The rumour of IBM dropping “all facial recognition work” is unsubstantiated, despite making its way into industry’s headlines. Krishna’s letter is here[0]. IBM
by strogonoff 6y ago
The rumour of IBM dropping “all facial recognition work” is unsubstantiated, despite making its way into industry’s headlines.
Krishna’s letter is here[0]. IBM will cease to sell related products and services. One might speculate they might resume sales once there are strong regulations and limitations in place.
[0] https://www.ibm.com/blogs/policy/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Letter-from-IBM.pdf https://www.ibm.com/blogs/policy/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/...
- saint-loup 6y agoQuoting from your link: >>> IBM no longer offers general purpose IBM facial recognition or analysis software. IBM firmly opposes and will not condone uses of any technology, including facial recognition technology offered by other vendors, for mass surveillance, racial profiling, violations of basic human rights and freedoms, or any purpose which is not consistent with our values and Principles of Trust and Transparency. We believe now is the time to begin a national dialogue on whether and how facial recognition technology should be employed by domestic law enforcement agencies. Even if the phrasing is limited to "general purpose" and "software", it still seems a pretty strong stance to me.
- rurban 6y agoI tend to start liking them more and more. Power as only unbackdoored modern CPU, and now this. Seems to be a big marketing push, in the right direction.
- wrkronmiller 6y ago> Power as only unbackdoored modern CPU Can you provide more details/proof?
- jedieaston 6y agoI think they are referring to it not having Intel ME or TrustZone (which is present in AMD chips and ARM chips), which could allow the processor manufacturer to run code that you don't know about. Of course, there's no Power systems for consumer use, so we're kind of stuck with Intel/AMD (until Apple releases those ARM Macs, which probably can't boot linux :( ).
- thinkmassive 6y agoRaptor Computing Systems makes the Talos II and Blackbird, both with POWER9 CPUs and available for purchase by consumers today.
- Sylamore 6y agoIBM recently laid off many of the POWER staff (effectively OpenPOWER only has a skeleton crew, POWER lost people too though) in their last round of layoffs. Speculation is that they are on the path to sell off the POWER design group.
- strogonoff 6y agoI personally appreciate IBM helping raise awareness of those issues. I was only noting a factual mistake in headlines reporting on this letter.
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- VWWHFSfQ 6y agoNorthrop Grumman has been developing very sophisticated, state-of-the-art, facial recognition technology for the last 15 years. There are several USA defense contractors that have this technology.
- paloaltokid 6y ago> Northrop Grumman has been developing very sophisticated, state-of-the-art, facial recognition technology for the last 15 years. Yikes, hopefully you're not suggesting that the length of time is a virtue? This may be a stereotype but I thought Northrop Grumman was one of those "attach" defense contractors that do work for years and years but never actually deliver any software.
- gnarbarian 6y agoWould you expect to know about the successful projects for a company who built the yf23? They would be ultra secret.
- catalogia 6y agoI'm confused by this comment. The YF-23 was not a successful project, but it's successful competitor is well known to the public. Furthermore there are successful Northrop projects that are known to the public, for instance the B-2. And the B-2 was shown to the public years before the first operational one was delivered to the Air Force.
- gnarbarian 6y agoHint: the 23 actually won. ;)
- lallysingh 6y agoNo, I remember talking to people in defense research around that time period working on facial recognition. Please take the "sophisticated" and "state-of-the-art" phrases as marketing.