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I don't know about the UK in particular, but salaries in Europe are in general lower than in the US. 40k gbp is almost 46k eur, which is not a bad salary in Vi

by ido 16y ago

I don't know about the UK in particular, but salaries in Europe are in general lower than in the US. 40k gbp is almost 46k eur, which is not a bad salary in Vienna.

tomjen3 16y ago
Yeah, but thats still more than 11000 pound less than the starting salary for a Danish computer programmer. For a senior programmer, thats a joke.
- ido 16y ago
  Denmark has an unusually strong economy, iirc it has the best employment market in the EU. Even in Malmö which is right next door 46k euros/year is not a bad a salary for a programmer.
  - _delirium 16y ago
    The tax system is also considerably different. Danish nominal salaries are higher than the UK, but take-home pay is much closer and sometimes actually lower, because taxes are about twice as high in that bracket. Someone making 40k pounds in the UK, for example, will take home around 31k. To take home 31k pounds (265k kr) in Denmark, you'd have to make over 60k pounds (500k kr) nominal salary. However, the social services the two countries provide differ as well.
dspillett 16y ago
It depends where you are living. In London 40K is a lot less attractive than in York (where I live and work) where it is probably very good, and in somewhere like Grimsby it might be considered particularly high. The cost and hassle of working in a particular place (i.e. either rent or property purchase prices, and/or the convenience/availability/cost of transport options, access to good social facilities, and so on) make a huge difference and vary by a surprising amount from place to place even within a relatively small country and this factors into what an acceptable salary is. Of course a good benefits package can affect the acceptability of a given rate significantly too, potentially offsetting the geographical differences - you need to consider a lot more than the one headline figure when judging if the offer is fair.

by ido 16y ago

I don't know about the UK in particular, but salaries in Europe are in general lower than in the US. 40k gbp is almost 46k eur, which is not a bad salary in Vienna.

tomjen3 16y ago

Yeah, but thats still more than 11000 pound less than the starting salary for a Danish computer programmer. For a senior programmer, thats a joke.

ido 16y ago
Denmark has an unusually strong economy, iirc it has the best employment market in the EU. Even in Malmö which is right next door 46k euros/year is not a bad a salary for a programmer.
- _delirium 16y ago
  The tax system is also considerably different. Danish nominal salaries are higher than the UK, but take-home pay is much closer and sometimes actually lower, because taxes are about twice as high in that bracket. Someone making 40k pounds in the UK, for example, will take home around 31k. To take home 31k pounds (265k kr) in Denmark, you'd have to make over 60k pounds (500k kr) nominal salary. However, the social services the two countries provide differ as well.

dspillett 16y ago

It depends where you are living. In London 40K is a lot less attractive than in York (where I live and work) where it is probably very good, and in somewhere like Grimsby it might be considered particularly high. The cost and hassle of working in a particular place (i.e. either rent or property purchase prices, and/or the convenience/availability/cost of transport options, access to good social facilities, and so on) make a huge difference and vary by a surprising amount from place to place even within a relatively small country and this factors into what an acceptable salary is. Of course a good benefits package can affect the acceptability of a given rate significantly too, potentially offsetting the geographical differences - you need to consider a lot more than the one headline figure when judging if the offer is fair.