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Here's some Tweets about it, the news story + commentary + Hall's humorous response ("some personal news"). http://www.mediazed.com/aws-sues.html http://www.me

Here's some Tweets about it, the news story + commentary + Hall's humorous response ("some personal news"). http://www.mediazed.com/aws-sues.html http://www.mediazed.com/aws-sues.html disclaimer: this is my own site.

ctvo 6y ago
Don't appreciate you linking your own property that offers little new information except the rehash without an explicit disclaimer.
- julianeon 6y ago
  Ok; I can see people are displeased. I've added a disclaimer, since that was requested. I'd like to take a moment to ask then what is appropriate here, after checking the etiquette guidelines, which I read beforehand and which are linked below. I read them line by line in advance and I didn't see a conflict; to be clear, they don't disallow what I did. However, I'm open to being told what I could do that would be better. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#:~:text=Please%20don't%20submit%20so,find%20interesting%E2%80%94not%20for%20promotion.&text=Be%20kind https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#:~:text=Ple.... I can accept not using my own domain name, I can always use another one (that I do not own). In this case, I spent about 15 minutes looking up the tweets around this, and then rearranging them, narrowing it down to just a few that can be a window onto other, better ones. I'll defend that as a value-add. It's not nothing. I quoted the guy at the center of the story, I quoted a couple of people he retweeted, and then I quoted someone who I think has a good perspective on non-competes. I mean yes, with even more effort, I could have summarized him, and the non-compete guy, and written a whole essay about it all, but that's too much, and this was a compromise - not a whole journalist-level article, but a useful, defensible amount. Now, let's look at different ways I could've done the equivalent, using other methods. I could've posted in the raw links, which I guess is the closest solution I know of, which I'd then need to comment on - not ideal, and people would've needed to click like 5 times to get the same functionality of 1 page, but okay. I could've created a Twitter moment, which would then fill my timeline with this (not my preference), and then posted that - still seems like self-promotion, but that way at least it's all reflected on Twitter, and after all I need some method to organize it. To be honest, to me, this seems like an overly restrictive definition of 'self-promotion' which ends up pushing out to objectively worse solutions (boring my followers with this, looking like a lazy dump of plain links, etc.) My perspective is this is the web and remixing content isn't a bad faith action, it's fundamental to what it is. But I understand the concern, and if people want to suggest what is appropriate, I will listen. If you want to make a suggestion for recommended solutions, I'll listen also.
  - niyazpk 6y ago
    I didn't downvote you, but since you have written a wall of text about this: Generally speaking, in these kind of situations, "Analysis" type links would be more appreciated than something that could be more "Gossipy". The twitter links feel more like "reactions", and I am not in HN for those. I saw this news in twitter, and came here to read more in-depth discussion.
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  - DenisM 6y ago
    There is certainly no rule against linking your own stuff, it's just a personal preference by ctvo. The bandwagon down-voters joined in as they often do.
  - ciarannolan 6y ago
    I appreciate that you took time to collect the tweets. I certainly found them interesting and wouldn't have found them on my own. Definitely add a disclaimer next time, though.
    - julianeon 6y ago
      Thank you; I will. I won't post to something I own without marking it as something I own in the future.
      - ciarannolan 6y ago
        All good my friend, it's just a message board on the internet :)

ctvo 6y ago

Don't appreciate you linking your own property that offers little new information except the rehash without an explicit disclaimer.

julianeon 6y ago
Ok; I can see people are displeased. I've added a disclaimer, since that was requested. I'd like to take a moment to ask then what is appropriate here, after checking the etiquette guidelines, which I read beforehand and which are linked below. I read them line by line in advance and I didn't see a conflict; to be clear, they don't disallow what I did. However, I'm open to being told what I could do that would be better. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#:~:text=Please%20don't%20submit%20so,find%20interesting%E2%80%94not%20for%20promotion.&text=Be%20kind https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html#:~:text=Ple.... I can accept not using my own domain name, I can always use another one (that I do not own). In this case, I spent about 15 minutes looking up the tweets around this, and then rearranging them, narrowing it down to just a few that can be a window onto other, better ones. I'll defend that as a value-add. It's not nothing. I quoted the guy at the center of the story, I quoted a couple of people he retweeted, and then I quoted someone who I think has a good perspective on non-competes. I mean yes, with even more effort, I could have summarized him, and the non-compete guy, and written a whole essay about it all, but that's too much, and this was a compromise - not a whole journalist-level article, but a useful, defensible amount. Now, let's look at different ways I could've done the equivalent, using other methods. I could've posted in the raw links, which I guess is the closest solution I know of, which I'd then need to comment on - not ideal, and people would've needed to click like 5 times to get the same functionality of 1 page, but okay. I could've created a Twitter moment, which would then fill my timeline with this (not my preference), and then posted that - still seems like self-promotion, but that way at least it's all reflected on Twitter, and after all I need some method to organize it. To be honest, to me, this seems like an overly restrictive definition of 'self-promotion' which ends up pushing out to objectively worse solutions (boring my followers with this, looking like a lazy dump of plain links, etc.) My perspective is this is the web and remixing content isn't a bad faith action, it's fundamental to what it is. But I understand the concern, and if people want to suggest what is appropriate, I will listen. If you want to make a suggestion for recommended solutions, I'll listen also.
- niyazpk 6y ago
  I didn't downvote you, but since you have written a wall of text about this: Generally speaking, in these kind of situations, "Analysis" type links would be more appreciated than something that could be more "Gossipy". The twitter links feel more like "reactions", and I am not in HN for those. I saw this news in twitter, and came here to read more in-depth discussion.
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- DenisM 6y ago
  There is certainly no rule against linking your own stuff, it's just a personal preference by ctvo. The bandwagon down-voters joined in as they often do.
- ciarannolan 6y ago
  I appreciate that you took time to collect the tweets. I certainly found them interesting and wouldn't have found them on my own. Definitely add a disclaimer next time, though.
  - julianeon 6y ago
    Thank you; I will. I won't post to something I own without marking it as something I own in the future.
    - ciarannolan 6y ago
      All good my friend, it's just a message board on the internet :)