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In all honesty, mushrooms, weed and alcohol taught me one thing. Do I like being simply sober! I prefer my mental quickness and sharpness over anything. When

• twic 6y ago
  I've tried yoga and salvia once each, and i much preferred the salvia. Where i live, weed is usually the narcotic, body-high type that makes you sit there quietly in an anaesthetised stupor - stereotypical indica. I don't enjoy that all. But occasionally, you come across the head-high type that makes you energetic and giggly - the stereotypical sativa. That's really good fun! It's like the best parts of being drunk, without some of the downsides.
  • AlecSchueler 6y ago
    How man sessions of yoga did you try, literally just the one? The benefits of yoga really come when you practice regularly in a sustained way and you get to know the poses and can feel how your body reacts differently each time you go into them, when you learn how not to hold tension, when you learn to follow the breath and when you learn to accept and trust your body's limits and strengths. To me it's someone saying they tried therapy for one session and didn't feel any benefit!
    • kungato 6y ago
      Do you have a recommendation on how to self study yoga?
      • mettamage 6y ago
        Well, I said yoga, but I actually mean stretching. I'm making myself more supple to enjoy yoga more when I'm more familiar with stretching in general.
• tartoran 6y ago
  It doesn’t sound you’re suffering from depression though. If you’re healthy stay that way. Some people need help and psychedelics can provide the answer
  • mettamage 6y ago
    My point always is: they can. I’ve experienced the awesome interconnectedness of psilocybin. But they can also leave you in a state where you might become suicidal on the spot. And since we didn’t have a tripsitter that became an issue. It’s experiences like those that I realized that I like being sober. But I agree they can, especially with more professional guidance. If anything, those people are sober and a tripsitter is a necessity.
    • tartoran 6y ago
      Yes, having a psychedelic experience without someone guiding is potentially dangerous and people shouldn't do these drugs for fun because it is not fun, quite the opposite, I remember crying a lot after my experience. My experience was more than 10 years ago and it still feels beneficial. I wouldn't have another psych experience unless I feel that I need to.
• ArtWomb 6y ago
  Just curious. In the coffeeshops in Amsterdam, are electronic vape products and edibles becoming more prevalent? Or is it still mostly flower culture. Where the primary method of consumption is the long cone joint or "spliff", generously mixed with some fine tobacco...
  • mettamage 6y ago
    I am the wrong person to ask. Let me put it this way: 50 y/o people look at me weird when I say that I smoke a pure joint. Edibles, don’t fully know. I do know that people that don’t like to smoke take them.
• teataster 6y ago
  Every time I took mushrooms, it felt like everything went in HD, no mental hinderance (as compared to say alcohol or weed) and even increased creativity/critical thinking. Good ol' college days. Is it possible that you might have taken a bit to big of a dose for your "abilities"? Not trying to debate your point or take any validity away from anything you said, I am 66% with you. Just curious about your thoughts, since we seem to have had a different experience in that case.
  • emptyfile 6y ago
    Mushrooms are the only drug which reliably produced bad trips every time I took them. 0 pros in comparison to LSD.
  • mettamage 6y ago
    A few times yea and a few times no. I think the bigger the dose, the more dangerous my behavior became. The lightest dose I had made me feel like a 10 year old kid. That was interesting. So there’s definitely something to it. The same goes for alcohol and weed. Now that I think about it more sharply, my favorite doses: - alcohol: 1 to 3 glasses - weed (Dutch): 1 to 3 puffs - truffles (Dutch as sold in smartshops): half a standard dose sold Thanks for making me more aware on this. I was only hyper aware of this with weed. Too much weed always makes me feel I’m dying. The first few times I had that, I even believed it. While too much mushrooms or alcohol are no joke either, the experiences were more positive (mixed in with a lot of less positive things).
    • xz0r 6y ago
      > Too much weed makes me feel I'm dying. You should try a strain with less THC and more CBD. More THC will lead to anxiety. The feeling that you're dying is quite common at high THC (for people who smoke rarely), but once you know how to "deal" with it, it opens up some experiences which are quite hard to put in words, but are quite enjoyable. A lot of it depends on the "set" and "setting". Without right setting (or music), I'm sure it would lead to racing thoughts and paranoid feelings.
• alexashka 6y ago
  For many people - they don't really have the quickness you speak of and even if they do, they haven't found a way to apply it in a way that they enjoy. The problem many people are fighting is boredom. Hence the prevalence of alcohol. It makes time go by, it turns off the brain that is largely capable of haphazard worrying and complaining. For those who are smart enough to assemble hierarchies of meaning and play with them, sobriety is great. For most everyone else - regular drug use is probably an optimal strategy.
  • mettamage 6y ago
    That’s a very clear vivid picture. I find it very hard to imagine if I am honest. However, your comment made it a bit easier. It sucks to live like that. I wish I could help. I’ll take a few minutes to see if there is some low hanging fruit. I know a few people quite close to me who fit this description.
    • alexashka 6y ago
      It sucks to live like that, from your perspective. From their perspective, trying to make sense of everything everyday would likely seem awful. People are different - some people loved school and got good grades, others couldn't sit still and would love nothing more than to get out and run around and cause havoc. Finding a set of rules that works well for most people is the tricky bit - so far we've been finding the lowest common denominator. Another strategy would be to separate people based on their inclinations and give them what would make them excel. We have yet to try that, in that setup, some would be drinking alcohol, some would be using psychedelics and another set would be stone sober, and all of them would be perfectly happy and accepting that other sets have different wants and needs.
• firecall 6y ago
  I just got bored. Bored with myself, with my own company. It's a terrible way to live. Drinking too much :-(
  • mettamage 6y ago
    Probably won’t help but it might. Is there any form of exercise you like? Get addicted to that. See how it compares to drugs and alcohol. For me, my favorite type of (running with my favorite pumped up music) is remarkably similar to what people I know report when they are on MDMA, and I know these people virtually as well as I know myself. Note: you don’t have to go all the way with exercise. Exercise is not about training your body. It’s about feeling good about moving. Example: when I lift weights and feel not into it anymore then I do one more rep to see if the feeling stays. If it does, I stop. Don’t exercise to train. Exercise because it feels so damn good. And the moment it doesn’t, then stop. This line of reasoning is also applied to yoga. I am the stiffest person in the world, but I love my stretches because they feel good. Do I improve? A bit but I care way more about performing healthy behaviors while feeling good. For me, it is the only sustainable way to be healthy.
• LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
  Then that stuff is not for your metabolism, or too strong/too much. I can relate to that, because alcohol is usually just a downer for me, but sometimes that can be ok, especially when one does not know what a hangover is. Regarding the weed, ONE small piece the size of a matchhead/pin-head can make me different for 2 to 3 days, turning into some overdrive mode. Even when worked into a slim cigarette with extra long 2cm filter with 6mm diameter. That is insane! Extasy i liked very much decades ago, but abstained from it because of too much "russian roulette". Sex i couldn't care less, my cats give me all the cuddling i need. Exercise? I bicycle and walk all year around during all weather. Meditation, Yoga? Don't care. Food? Don't care that much. Like to abuse mild Sri Racha (green cap) on everything :) edit: Ah, forgot Shrooms. Would like to have them more often! And anything else with the reputation of expanding consciousness. But again, in a safe way, without russian roulette.
  • colecut 6y ago
    Can you elaborate on what makes ecstacy like Russian roulette?
    • LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
      The uncertainty of origin, possible manipulation/adulteration, total lack of traceable quality control. As with anything black-market related to drugs. edit: When you are not in the 'scene/subculture', and therefore don't have networks. And even then it's a matter of trust, or dislike of involvement of those networks into things which you'd rather not like to be connected with.
      • goatsi 6y ago
        That's no longer a problem these days, buy some powder/crystalline MDMA and then send it off to a testing laboratory such as https://www.ecstasydata.org/ https://www.ecstasydata.org/. Many European countries even have free testing services you can use. I would recommend getting powder because that way you can know your exact dose, another problem with getting pills.
• dwaltrip 6y ago
  While your post is interesting (albeit mostly anecdotal), it doesn’t seem like you are responding to the main substance of the article.
  • mettamage 6y ago
    True, sorry for that. I responded to the title and to the comments. I feel people are a bit too hyped about this and since I have used stuff like this to help me with my mental state, I hoped that my comment might be interesting food for thought. My opinion feels a bit like a counter comment to what I read in the comment section. Since it was so different, I felt the need to make it. Apologies for not responding to the main article. I support drugs research though. It’s silly that we as a society don’t learn about all our tools, we should learn how to use them.
• hkai 6y ago
  That's interesting because quite a lot of people on reddit seem to believe that drugs is the only fun thing to do in life, and the rest is horrifying - work, money, relationship problems, housing and so on. Perhaps that's why governments try to ban drugs: because given a chance, most people would prefer NOT to stay sober, except for few exceptional individuals.
  • trianglem 6y ago
    Well anything involved with traditionally working for a living is hellish to this generation (myself included). Given a choice I would wake up and do what I wanted that morning which usually is productive but not always and there’s no requirement it should be. But what are you going to do, work makes society run so we must do it.
  • tarsinge 6y ago
    I don't think that most people would prefer not to stay sober. Given my experience it really depends of your age. 22 years old me would have laughed if I said that I now prefer to spend times with my friend playing board games in the afternoon instead of just drinking all night. I see a lot of people in my circles that were heavy drinkers in their 20's and now in their 30's are naturally drifting towards enjoying other things more. The catch is to not cross the line to addiction during that time, and here being middle/upper class makes the difference because it usually means your life is mostly on tracks (like having a job), with positive social pressure from friends and family to go too far. Not everyone has the chance to have that.
  • mettamage 6y ago
    I am changing my attitude on it by asking relentlessly: how is this fun? For work the answer is: a 4 day work week helps a shit ton. I am free on Wednesday. So if I dread the workday then I am free the next day or the day after that which puts me at ease. Also, then when I am free, I am noticing that I don’t like the day much more. That gives me a powerful perspective to not blame work for when I feel unhappy. Also, my work feels kind of easy. CRUD apps are not tje difficult beasts I studied during college. It also helps that the founders guard work-life balance.