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Norway Scientist Claims Report Proves Coronavirus Was Lab-Made

18 points by punnerud 6y ago

Gummaluri 6y ago
The link says the page is no longer active.
kian 6y ago
http://archive.is/voHST http://archive.is/voHST
punnerud 6y ago
Forbes probably withdrawn it because the paper is withdrawn and soon (<1week) to published again as two papers. https://www.ibtimes.sg/british-norwegian-study-claims-coronavirus-was-lab-made-former-mi6-chief-agrees-46528 https://www.ibtimes.sg/british-norwegian-study-claims-corona...
s1artibartfast 6y ago
Edit: It looks like I have confused Birger Sørensen with Ralph S. Baric, who is the real expert. This is unfortunate news. For context, Birger Sørensen is one of two global experts in genetically engineered Corona viruses and the other is Shi Zhengli, based out of Wuhan. For the last 20 years, the two have been in competition to humanize coronaviruses and test how contagious they are in mice and primates.
- AnimalMuppet 6y ago
  "Unfortunate" how? Unfortunate because it's professional jealousy, likely to hold back the field? Or unfortunate because it's likely true? By the way, I love your HN name.
  - s1artibartfast 6y ago
    Unfortunate because it lends a tremendous amount of credibility to the lab-made hypothesis, which can only increase tensions with China and lead to geopolictial consequenses which will leave us all worse off. Glad you like the name!
- someone7x 6y ago
  > in competition to humanize coronaviruses Forgive my naivety, but how is that possibly a good thing?
  - s1artibartfast 6y ago
    Following the SARS outbreak, there was a great interest in understanding the potential risk coronaviruses pose to human populations. This is done by collecting viral specimens from all over the world and looking at ways in which they could combine or mutate, and how the resulting virus behaves. You then infect and animal with the most dangerous (or probable) new virus, and test new vaccines for treating it. If done correctly, you have a catalogue of vaccines for potential threats before they occur in nature.
karmakaze 6y ago
> contains sequences that appear to be artificially inserted. When did 'appear to be' constitute proof?
sneeuwpopsneeuw 6y ago
where is the proof, none of the researches that are mentioned are publicly available on the internet.

18 points by punnerud 6y ago

Gummaluri 6y ago

The link says the page is no longer active.

kian 6y ago

http://archive.is/voHST http://archive.is/voHST

punnerud 6y ago

Forbes probably withdrawn it because the paper is withdrawn and soon (<1week) to published again as two papers. https://www.ibtimes.sg/british-norwegian-study-claims-coronavirus-was-lab-made-former-mi6-chief-agrees-46528 https://www.ibtimes.sg/british-norwegian-study-claims-corona...

s1artibartfast 6y ago

Edit: It looks like I have confused Birger Sørensen with Ralph S. Baric, who is the real expert. This is unfortunate news. For context, Birger Sørensen is one of two global experts in genetically engineered Corona viruses and the other is Shi Zhengli, based out of Wuhan. For the last 20 years, the two have been in competition to humanize coronaviruses and test how contagious they are in mice and primates.

AnimalMuppet 6y ago
"Unfortunate" how? Unfortunate because it's professional jealousy, likely to hold back the field? Or unfortunate because it's likely true? By the way, I love your HN name.
- s1artibartfast 6y ago
  Unfortunate because it lends a tremendous amount of credibility to the lab-made hypothesis, which can only increase tensions with China and lead to geopolictial consequenses which will leave us all worse off. Glad you like the name!
someone7x 6y ago
> in competition to humanize coronaviruses Forgive my naivety, but how is that possibly a good thing?
- s1artibartfast 6y ago
  Following the SARS outbreak, there was a great interest in understanding the potential risk coronaviruses pose to human populations. This is done by collecting viral specimens from all over the world and looking at ways in which they could combine or mutate, and how the resulting virus behaves. You then infect and animal with the most dangerous (or probable) new virus, and test new vaccines for treating it. If done correctly, you have a catalogue of vaccines for potential threats before they occur in nature.

karmakaze 6y ago

> contains sequences that appear to be artificially inserted. When did 'appear to be' constitute proof?

sneeuwpopsneeuw 6y ago

where is the proof, none of the researches that are mentioned are publicly available on the internet.