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It’s weird, people report all these issues, but in the past I bought Thinkpads for years & they always "just worked". Took a risk & picked up a Dell XPS 13 a co

by pja 6y ago

It’s weird, people report all these issues, but in the past I bought Thinkpads for years & they always "just worked". Took a risk & picked up a Dell XPS 13 a couple of years ago, and that "just worked" too. It’s like I live in parallel universe of Linux hardware support to some of you.

cancerSpreads 6y ago
You have discovered Apple Marketing. Their security and privacy stances are no different.
vz8 6y ago
Same. Never had an issue with Thinkpads nor Dells of all stripes. Now the Surface Pro on the other hand, was a disastrous time sink.
- mbreese 6y ago
  How does sleep/suspend work? That was always the biggest hangup for me. Although, it's been almost a decade since I last tried. However, a colleague's Dell running Ubuntu was a nightmare. Not sure if it was the model or how he had it set up though.
  - BTBurke 6y ago
    I have a Dell XPS 13 and have run various flavors of Arch without any problems. I didn't try Ubuntu, however. Sleep and suspend just work. Battery life is good - typically 5-7 hours. Before this I had no problems with a Thinkpad and even on a MacBook Air (2012). Maybe I'm just so used to Linux now that I don't notice problems since I've been on it since 1998-ish except for a short stint on OS X. Dell support is terrible so I can't recommend the XPS. When I had a problem with the battery they wouldn't replace it under warranty since I was not in the country where I bought it, which is total BS.
kerkeslager 6y ago
I've had a Thinkpad too, and had issues. A lot of these issues are minor, and easily fixed, so I suspect the "parallel universe" effect is indicative of a willingness to overlook small issues. The font issue I found is hardly critical, for example, and I suspect a lot of developers would just live with it.
viraptor 6y ago
Once you say something generally works, it's a magnet for "doesn't work for me" responses. "Yeah, just fine for me too" is not really a response worth writing / it's discouraged. Forums are terrible for finding consensus / getting real stats.

by pja 6y ago

cancerSpreads 6y ago

You have discovered Apple Marketing. Their security and privacy stances are no different.

vz8 6y ago

Same. Never had an issue with Thinkpads nor Dells of all stripes. Now the Surface Pro on the other hand, was a disastrous time sink.

mbreese 6y ago
How does sleep/suspend work? That was always the biggest hangup for me. Although, it's been almost a decade since I last tried. However, a colleague's Dell running Ubuntu was a nightmare. Not sure if it was the model or how he had it set up though.
- BTBurke 6y ago
  I have a Dell XPS 13 and have run various flavors of Arch without any problems. I didn't try Ubuntu, however. Sleep and suspend just work. Battery life is good - typically 5-7 hours. Before this I had no problems with a Thinkpad and even on a MacBook Air (2012). Maybe I'm just so used to Linux now that I don't notice problems since I've been on it since 1998-ish except for a short stint on OS X. Dell support is terrible so I can't recommend the XPS. When I had a problem with the battery they wouldn't replace it under warranty since I was not in the country where I bought it, which is total BS.

kerkeslager 6y ago

I've had a Thinkpad too, and had issues. A lot of these issues are minor, and easily fixed, so I suspect the "parallel universe" effect is indicative of a willingness to overlook small issues. The font issue I found is hardly critical, for example, and I suspect a lot of developers would just live with it.

viraptor 6y ago

Once you say something generally works, it's a magnet for "doesn't work for me" responses. "Yeah, just fine for me too" is not really a response worth writing / it's discouraged. Forums are terrible for finding consensus / getting real stats.