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"Boomers" are just people born before us. If you or I were born earlier would we have acted better than them? Probably not because people are shaped by their cu

"Boomers" are just people born before us. If you or I were born earlier would we have acted better than them? Probably not because people are shaped by their culture and environment. So whats the point of this argument?

4636760295 6y ago
Just look at any of the data surrounding a) who's running the government (hint: boomers) and b) who's voting for republicans (hint: boomers). Be mad if you want, but the data doesn't lie. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/the-republican-party-has-an-older-voters-problem.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/the-republican-party... https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45583.pdf https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45583.pdf
gonzo41 6y ago
I think the angst with "boomers" is due to the fact that today's culture and the environment and modern science points out that we, all of us, should act in a better way to our environment. However a lot of older folk seems to think that can reasonably hold onto the prevailing view that existed when they were born rather than confront reality. Young people today have an eye's open approach to the disasters that are coming and a lot of the responsible people are going skip out helping with the bill. The anger is understandable.
- seiferteric 6y ago
  Certainly, but the way forward is to come up with convincing arguments and better solutions to the problems at hand. Blaming boomers is not effective. My point is that if you or I were born 30+ years earlier, we would be behaving (statistically) exactly the same way. So the blame game is pointless, in the end people are people.
  - gonzo41 6y ago
    You're right, people are people. The blame game makes perfect sense. :P
  - 4636760295 6y ago
    People have been making great arguments for decades, but that hasn't worked. There hasn't been any substantial change. In fact, Trump has been gutting environmental laws, rolling back emissions rules, and castrating agencies like the EPA. The time has passed to sit idle. Seriously, people need to get mad and start taking real action, because congress is not doing anything about it.
    - austincheney 6y ago
      Real action? What specific climate fixing action would you recommend people take? I suspect eliminating electricity and transportation would have the greatest impact, although that is not realistic.
      - anonymoushn 6y ago
        A big way to eliminate transportation is to legalize the construction of housing and the operation of businesses in and near cities, then allow people who commute for an hour or two to move so they don't have to commute. This is impossible, because we (boomers) have decided that it's important for our society for local governments (boomers) and sometimes residents (boomers) to have veto power over housing construction and the ability to delay business openings by years.

4636760295 6y ago

Just look at any of the data surrounding a) who's running the government (hint: boomers) and b) who's voting for republicans (hint: boomers). Be mad if you want, but the data doesn't lie. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/the-republican-party-has-an-older-voters-problem.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/the-republican-party... https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45583.pdf https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R45583.pdf

gonzo41 6y ago

I think the angst with "boomers" is due to the fact that today's culture and the environment and modern science points out that we, all of us, should act in a better way to our environment. However a lot of older folk seems to think that can reasonably hold onto the prevailing view that existed when they were born rather than confront reality. Young people today have an eye's open approach to the disasters that are coming and a lot of the responsible people are going skip out helping with the bill. The anger is understandable.

seiferteric 6y ago
Certainly, but the way forward is to come up with convincing arguments and better solutions to the problems at hand. Blaming boomers is not effective. My point is that if you or I were born 30+ years earlier, we would be behaving (statistically) exactly the same way. So the blame game is pointless, in the end people are people.
- gonzo41 6y ago
  You're right, people are people. The blame game makes perfect sense. :P
- 4636760295 6y ago
  People have been making great arguments for decades, but that hasn't worked. There hasn't been any substantial change. In fact, Trump has been gutting environmental laws, rolling back emissions rules, and castrating agencies like the EPA. The time has passed to sit idle. Seriously, people need to get mad and start taking real action, because congress is not doing anything about it.
  - austincheney 6y ago
    Real action? What specific climate fixing action would you recommend people take? I suspect eliminating electricity and transportation would have the greatest impact, although that is not realistic.
    - anonymoushn 6y ago
      A big way to eliminate transportation is to legalize the construction of housing and the operation of businesses in and near cities, then allow people who commute for an hour or two to move so they don't have to commute. This is impossible, because we (boomers) have decided that it's important for our society for local governments (boomers) and sometimes residents (boomers) to have veto power over housing construction and the ability to delay business openings by years.