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Looks like the new odroid c4 (raspberry pi competitor) has this g31 chip. [0,1] Might be interesting to try building a cluster with these. [2] I wonder how mu

Looks like the new odroid c4 (raspberry pi competitor) has this g31 chip. [0,1] Might be interesting to try building a cluster with these. [2] I wonder how much remaining work there is for full upstream support on these AmLogic chips? The problem with arm chips has always been limited upstream distro support. The Linux-Sunxi folks have been working for years to get the Allwinner stack up to snuff... it’s taken a long time.[3] Is there any community around the AmLogic and Rockchip stuff as solid and coordinated as the Allwinner folks? [0] https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-c4/ https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-c4/ [1] https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/04/23/50-odroid-c4-raspberry-pi-4-competitor-combines-amlogic-s905x3-soc-with-4gb-ram/ https://www.cnx-software.com/2020/04/23/50-odroid-c4-raspber... [2] https://blog.tjll.net/distributed-homelab-cluster/#network-consensus-and-service-discovery https://blog.tjll.net/distributed-homelab-cluster/#network-c... [3] https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort

gre 6y ago
There's a good community for the odroid-c4 with an Ubuntu 20.04 image with linux 5.7 and support for the Mali G31 with Wayland. I got an odroid-c4 with flash emmc storage and Realtek RTL8811AU wifi dongle from ameridroid to avoid this shipping costs from overseas. https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=38557 https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=38557
- visualphoenix 6y ago
  Oof. That’s exactly what I worry about... who is compiling this “Ubuntu”... is it official upstream? What Kernel patches are they carrying?
  - LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
    You could also try https://www.armbian.com/odroid-c4/ https://www.armbian.com/odroid-c4/ While i don't have one, i use Armbian on several other systems, and it tends to be stressless. As long as one doesn't use their noob-friendly software installer scripts, which tend to break something. Anyways, it is essentially Debian, or Ubuntu depending on the image you have choosen. edit: I'd go one step further even. If it isn't supported by Armbian, I'd avoid it. Because they tend to be first in delivering a cohesive solution like you'd expect from a distro, and not some patched together pile of something which just runs, is rarely or never updated, and won't run the stuff YOU want to run. Only downside, they lag a bit behind in integrating all that vendor-/boardspecific stuff. But then, who really cares about that when running Debian? :)
    - wojciii 6y ago
      I recently used Armbian for a project (my HW is better supported than openwrt which gave up on the board that I use). Documentation is ok, but I found most of the clues at their forums. The IRC channel was also helpful. And finally the output kernel/image just works.
Andrex 6y ago
I remember doing some web development work for HardKernel/ODROID back in ~2010 and I just did it for free (I loved the idea of an "Android Game Boy," plus Chris Pruett at Google recommended it for gaming and game development[1]), and they ended up sending me an ODROID-S out of the blue. I was totally surprised and felt I didn't really deserve it (MSRP was like $200-300 and I was a poor college kid), and I'll never forget the gesture. HK earned a longtime fan with that move for sure, haha. :) [1] http://replicaisland.blogspot.com/2010/01/fragmentation-more-like-fragmentawesome.html http://replicaisland.blogspot.com/2010/01/fragmentation-more...
- visualphoenix 6y ago
  Is there a mailing list or wiki tracking the status of these components and patches for the kernel for HK? Like the one for Sunxi?
  - LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
    http://www.linux-meson.com/ http://www.linux-meson.com/ ?
    - visualphoenix 6y ago
      Thanks! This looks like exactly what I was looking for!
      - mxmilkb 6y ago
        See also https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=176&t=33993 https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=176&t=33993 Re graphics, #panfrost on freenode
  - pizza234 6y ago
    If you're interested in HK's kernel patches, you can simply download their repository (`git clone https://github.com/hardkernel/linux.git` https://github.com/hardkernel/linux.git`), then add the upstream kernel repository (`git remote add upstream git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable`), then fetch it and just compare the tags (e.g. `git cherry -v vX.Y.Z X.Y.Z-A`).
LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
[4] http://www.linux-meson.com/ http://www.linux-meson.com/ ?
asveikau 6y ago
> Might be interesting to try building a cluster with these. Anyone who used to read slashdot just got popped back into the late 90s.
- visualphoenix 6y ago
  :D yes. a beowulf cluster. these day's it'd be a kubernetes/nomad cluster. doesnt roll off the tongue like it used to.

gre 6y ago

There's a good community for the odroid-c4 with an Ubuntu 20.04 image with linux 5.7 and support for the Mali G31 with Wayland. I got an odroid-c4 with flash emmc storage and Realtek RTL8811AU wifi dongle from ameridroid to avoid this shipping costs from overseas. https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=38557 https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=202&t=38557

visualphoenix 6y ago
Oof. That’s exactly what I worry about... who is compiling this “Ubuntu”... is it official upstream? What Kernel patches are they carrying?
- LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
  You could also try https://www.armbian.com/odroid-c4/ https://www.armbian.com/odroid-c4/ While i don't have one, i use Armbian on several other systems, and it tends to be stressless. As long as one doesn't use their noob-friendly software installer scripts, which tend to break something. Anyways, it is essentially Debian, or Ubuntu depending on the image you have choosen. edit: I'd go one step further even. If it isn't supported by Armbian, I'd avoid it. Because they tend to be first in delivering a cohesive solution like you'd expect from a distro, and not some patched together pile of something which just runs, is rarely or never updated, and won't run the stuff YOU want to run. Only downside, they lag a bit behind in integrating all that vendor-/boardspecific stuff. But then, who really cares about that when running Debian? :)
  - wojciii 6y ago
    I recently used Armbian for a project (my HW is better supported than openwrt which gave up on the board that I use). Documentation is ok, but I found most of the clues at their forums. The IRC channel was also helpful. And finally the output kernel/image just works.

Andrex 6y ago

I remember doing some web development work for HardKernel/ODROID back in ~2010 and I just did it for free (I loved the idea of an "Android Game Boy," plus Chris Pruett at Google recommended it for gaming and game development[1]), and they ended up sending me an ODROID-S out of the blue. I was totally surprised and felt I didn't really deserve it (MSRP was like $200-300 and I was a poor college kid), and I'll never forget the gesture. HK earned a longtime fan with that move for sure, haha. :) [1] http://replicaisland.blogspot.com/2010/01/fragmentation-more-like-fragmentawesome.html http://replicaisland.blogspot.com/2010/01/fragmentation-more...

visualphoenix 6y ago
Is there a mailing list or wiki tracking the status of these components and patches for the kernel for HK? Like the one for Sunxi?
- LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
  http://www.linux-meson.com/ http://www.linux-meson.com/ ?
  - visualphoenix 6y ago
    Thanks! This looks like exactly what I was looking for!
    - mxmilkb 6y ago
      See also https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=176&t=33993 https://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=176&t=33993 Re graphics, #panfrost on freenode
- pizza234 6y ago
  If you're interested in HK's kernel patches, you can simply download their repository (`git clone https://github.com/hardkernel/linux.git` https://github.com/hardkernel/linux.git`), then add the upstream kernel repository (`git remote add upstream git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable`), then fetch it and just compare the tags (e.g. `git cherry -v vX.Y.Z X.Y.Z-A`).

LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago

[4] http://www.linux-meson.com/ http://www.linux-meson.com/ ?

asveikau 6y ago

> Might be interesting to try building a cluster with these. Anyone who used to read slashdot just got popped back into the late 90s.

visualphoenix 6y ago
:D yes. a beowulf cluster. these day's it'd be a kubernetes/nomad cluster. doesnt roll off the tongue like it used to.