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Same thing is done by JetBrains Technically, somewhat similar. Socially, hell no! If you visit the Idea home page, it's a normal product page. It offers to buy

by owl57 6y ago

Same thing is done by JetBrains Technically, somewhat similar. Socially, hell no! If you visit the Idea home page, it's a normal product page. It offers to buy the full product or download the free edition. Their business is pretty obvious. On the other hand, VS Code page has misleading "Free. Built on open source." in big letters under the headline. What's their business?

jhanschoo 6y ago
It seems to me that VSCode is developing toward greater intergration with Azure and GitHub as a cloud platform. e.g. if you look at the docs presently https://code.visualstudio.com/docs https://code.visualstudio.com/docs , you see some signs of it already with a section dedicated to azure containing extensions dedicated to managing and deploying to parts of azure from within VSCode.
- moksly 6y ago
  Of course it is, the sole reason Microsoft is doing these things is to sell Azure. Don’t get me wrong, my organisation has a several decade long partnership with Microsoft and they are one of our greatest business partners on the tech side, but the company hasn’t changed one bit. They’ve simply changed what is is they are selling from software licenses to cloud, and having lots and lots of easily available mostly open source tools is how they do that best. Just look at their image transformation from evil monopoly to open source champion. But everything they do, works better if you buy their products. .Net core runs perfectly well without Azure, but it works just a tad better with things like application insights. VSC works perfectly well on Linux or OS/X, but it works just a little bit better with Azure integration or/and on Windows with WSL.
  - agustif 6y ago
    I certainly prefer my Macbook with OS X and VS Code = React Instant Reloads On a windows cpu with WSL, it takes like 30 seconds to recompile a simple nextjs frontend... WSL makes 0 sense when you have unix/bash available in the OS like is the case with Linux/Mac anyways. Maybe the azure part... But I stick to heroku/netlify/vercel anyway.
- owl57 6y ago
  Of course, that was the theory from the start: they made VSCode to get developer attention and nudge them towards Microsoft cloud. Fine. How does it explain why «those extensions are closed source and explicitly check that they're running on only VSCode»?
  - jhanschoo 6y ago
    I have no idea. My first guess is that they contain libraries that they are not allowed to distribute as source, and that they have only been tested on VSCode.

by owl57 6y ago

jhanschoo 6y ago

It seems to me that VSCode is developing toward greater intergration with Azure and GitHub as a cloud platform. e.g. if you look at the docs presently https://code.visualstudio.com/docs https://code.visualstudio.com/docs , you see some signs of it already with a section dedicated to azure containing extensions dedicated to managing and deploying to parts of azure from within VSCode.

moksly 6y ago
Of course it is, the sole reason Microsoft is doing these things is to sell Azure. Don’t get me wrong, my organisation has a several decade long partnership with Microsoft and they are one of our greatest business partners on the tech side, but the company hasn’t changed one bit. They’ve simply changed what is is they are selling from software licenses to cloud, and having lots and lots of easily available mostly open source tools is how they do that best. Just look at their image transformation from evil monopoly to open source champion. But everything they do, works better if you buy their products. .Net core runs perfectly well without Azure, but it works just a tad better with things like application insights. VSC works perfectly well on Linux or OS/X, but it works just a little bit better with Azure integration or/and on Windows with WSL.
- agustif 6y ago
  I certainly prefer my Macbook with OS X and VS Code = React Instant Reloads On a windows cpu with WSL, it takes like 30 seconds to recompile a simple nextjs frontend... WSL makes 0 sense when you have unix/bash available in the OS like is the case with Linux/Mac anyways. Maybe the azure part... But I stick to heroku/netlify/vercel anyway.
owl57 6y ago
Of course, that was the theory from the start: they made VSCode to get developer attention and nudge them towards Microsoft cloud. Fine. How does it explain why «those extensions are closed source and explicitly check that they're running on only VSCode»?
- jhanschoo 6y ago
  I have no idea. My first guess is that they contain libraries that they are not allowed to distribute as source, and that they have only been tested on VSCode.