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Why are you so confident that communications jamming is easy? The person initiating the communications has all the cards; while the person trying to jam is stuc

by krapht 6y ago

Why are you so confident that communications jamming is easy? The person initiating the communications has all the cards; while the person trying to jam is stuck trying to blast power over a constantly shifting comms frequency and come in via an antenna sidelobe.

m0zg 6y ago
I didn't mean it was easy "easy". But it's more than doable. And it's been done in Syria: https://www.thedefensepost.com/2018/05/01/russia-syria-electronic-warfare/ https://www.thedefensepost.com/2018/05/01/russia-syria-elect.... It's also very asymmetric, similar to e.g. advanced airplanes vs anti-aircraft rockets, or aircraft carriers vs submarines. One of the options is way cheaper, and makes the other not very viable if shit hits the fan.
- krapht 6y ago
  You speak very confidently but I would like a technical discussion of the points I raised. Even in the link you posted, there is the following: "The U.S. is not getting the message, however, because no one in the U.S. military believes Russia is actually capable of jamming advanced drones and missiles, according to Valeriano." How do you defeat a drone swarm using frequency agile communications over narrow beams with cheap equipment, such that it's asymmetric in cost?
  - fit2rule 6y ago
    Well, seems like the jury is still out in many quarters, but there is a secret Cold War going on around electromagnetic jamming tech, and the Russians have the lead: https://www.voanews.com/europe/russian-mystery-weapon-claim-seen-sign-military-weakness https://www.voanews.com/europe/russian-mystery-weapon-claim-...
  - m0zg 6y ago
    Of course they'll _say_ they "don't believe" it works. Yet they ceased operations in the region for a few days when Russia turned this gear on. It's propaganda, of course it works. Not as good as the other side claims (that too is propaganda), but well enough to fuck shit up.

by krapht 6y ago

m0zg 6y ago

I didn't mean it was easy "easy". But it's more than doable. And it's been done in Syria: https://www.thedefensepost.com/2018/05/01/russia-syria-electronic-warfare/ https://www.thedefensepost.com/2018/05/01/russia-syria-elect.... It's also very asymmetric, similar to e.g. advanced airplanes vs anti-aircraft rockets, or aircraft carriers vs submarines. One of the options is way cheaper, and makes the other not very viable if shit hits the fan.

krapht 6y ago
You speak very confidently but I would like a technical discussion of the points I raised. Even in the link you posted, there is the following: "The U.S. is not getting the message, however, because no one in the U.S. military believes Russia is actually capable of jamming advanced drones and missiles, according to Valeriano." How do you defeat a drone swarm using frequency agile communications over narrow beams with cheap equipment, such that it's asymmetric in cost?
- fit2rule 6y ago
  Well, seems like the jury is still out in many quarters, but there is a secret Cold War going on around electromagnetic jamming tech, and the Russians have the lead: https://www.voanews.com/europe/russian-mystery-weapon-claim-seen-sign-military-weakness https://www.voanews.com/europe/russian-mystery-weapon-claim-...
- m0zg 6y ago
  Of course they'll _say_ they "don't believe" it works. Yet they ceased operations in the region for a few days when Russia turned this gear on. It's propaganda, of course it works. Not as good as the other side claims (that too is propaganda), but well enough to fuck shit up.