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What are those concerns?

by adventist 6y ago

ajb92 6y ago
Not OP, but I’d bet they meant that deaf or hard-of-hearing people should be able to enjoy the programs
- stimpson_j_cat 6y ago
  Yes, thank you. Anyone that uses assistive technologies.
  - crehn 6y ago
    Or anyone that might want to watch without sound, also falls within “accessibility”.
- ComodoHacker 6y ago
  That and high traffic cost in developing countries also falls into accessibility category.
- KineticLensman 6y ago
  > deaf or hard-of-hearing people should be able to enjoy the programs This is really important. I have moderate hearing loss but can hear 'okay' with a hearing aid. I place where I worked had a lot of mandatory training that involved video presentations. They introduced one new video and I realised that there was one bit where some important info (it was needed to pass the post video test) was only presented in spoken form, with no transcript or captions. I could follow it but a person with profound hearing loss would have struggled. Because I am sensitised to accessibility issues I decided to make a fuss about this. In a superb piece of irony, the subject of the training video was actually diversity issues in the workplace. I therefore contacted the training department saying "Did you know that your diversity training discriminates against deaf people?" To give them credit, they said 'oops our bad' and quickly added captions.
  - stimpson_j_cat 6y ago
    That sounds very frustrating. More frustrating than me explaining to senior mgmt why we need to spend money on a11y. Your example is a great one, but aside from audio and visual problems, a11y covers things like cognitive deficits, which, for some, make watching and learning from videos difficult. > I decided to make a fuss about this. Good on you, more people need to be making a fuss about this. I actually wrote Chris Croyier about a small snippet of example code on his site (CSS-Tricks) that didn't follow a11y best practices. He replied, and updated the code! Nice guy.
nine_k 6y ago
len('accessibility') == 13 So a11y stands for "a word starting with 'a' then 11 letters then ending with 'y'". Compare to i18n, l10n.
- Smaug123 6y ago
  I hadn't seen any of these before, and the first word I found for i18n was "iodochlorhydroxyquin". Seemed somewhat unlikely.
  - hnick 6y ago
    internationalization
  - lozf 6y ago
    Wow, I'm amazed that any HN reader has not seen at least K8s for Kubernetes before... still, xkcd 10,000 strikes again.
    - Smaug123 6y ago
      I assumed "k8s" was so named by skipping out the syllables "ubern" and slightly mangling the rest. Fortunately I work in the privileged position of never really needing to consider questions of deployment, and I am extremely happy to keep it that way.
- MereInterest 6y ago
  The use of a11y-style acronyms fails for r9y reasons.
  - stimpson_j_cat 6y ago
    It sucks for onboarding new devs, but I've worked at companies where I did a11y audits for high-traffic e-commerce sites. The the amount of times I didn't have to type those extra 9 letters must have saved months of my life.

What are those concerns?

ajb92 6y ago

Not OP, but I’d bet they meant that deaf or hard-of-hearing people should be able to enjoy the programs

stimpson_j_cat 6y ago
Yes, thank you. Anyone that uses assistive technologies.
- crehn 6y ago
  Or anyone that might want to watch without sound, also falls within “accessibility”.
ComodoHacker 6y ago
That and high traffic cost in developing countries also falls into accessibility category.
KineticLensman 6y ago
> deaf or hard-of-hearing people should be able to enjoy the programs This is really important. I have moderate hearing loss but can hear 'okay' with a hearing aid. I place where I worked had a lot of mandatory training that involved video presentations. They introduced one new video and I realised that there was one bit where some important info (it was needed to pass the post video test) was only presented in spoken form, with no transcript or captions. I could follow it but a person with profound hearing loss would have struggled. Because I am sensitised to accessibility issues I decided to make a fuss about this. In a superb piece of irony, the subject of the training video was actually diversity issues in the workplace. I therefore contacted the training department saying "Did you know that your diversity training discriminates against deaf people?" To give them credit, they said 'oops our bad' and quickly added captions.
- stimpson_j_cat 6y ago
  That sounds very frustrating. More frustrating than me explaining to senior mgmt why we need to spend money on a11y. Your example is a great one, but aside from audio and visual problems, a11y covers things like cognitive deficits, which, for some, make watching and learning from videos difficult. > I decided to make a fuss about this. Good on you, more people need to be making a fuss about this. I actually wrote Chris Croyier about a small snippet of example code on his site (CSS-Tricks) that didn't follow a11y best practices. He replied, and updated the code! Nice guy.

nine_k 6y ago

len('accessibility') == 13 So a11y stands for "a word starting with 'a' then 11 letters then ending with 'y'". Compare to i18n, l10n.

Smaug123 6y ago
I hadn't seen any of these before, and the first word I found for i18n was "iodochlorhydroxyquin". Seemed somewhat unlikely.
- hnick 6y ago
  internationalization
- lozf 6y ago
  Wow, I'm amazed that any HN reader has not seen at least K8s for Kubernetes before... still, xkcd 10,000 strikes again.
  - Smaug123 6y ago
    I assumed "k8s" was so named by skipping out the syllables "ubern" and slightly mangling the rest. Fortunately I work in the privileged position of never really needing to consider questions of deployment, and I am extremely happy to keep it that way.
MereInterest 6y ago
The use of a11y-style acronyms fails for r9y reasons.
- stimpson_j_cat 6y ago
  It sucks for onboarding new devs, but I've worked at companies where I did a11y audits for high-traffic e-commerce sites. The the amount of times I didn't have to type those extra 9 letters must have saved months of my life.