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I live in a country where most of this is true. Unfortunately, there are now so many care workers that many people with issues are getting fed up with all the

by Myce 6y ago

I live in a country where most of this is true. Unfortunately, there are now so many care workers that many people with issues are getting fed up with all the people that come to their house for all kinds of help (think a care worker for finance, one for mental issues,one for physical issues,one to help the person get back to work, one for the kids etc. etc.) So if there will be a shift from 'police as is', to more like a care worker system, this would be something to consider. But other than that, it seems to work well. The police is considered your friend. They pretty know each of the people that have issues or who ever committed crime. They continue to offer help to them,but will make sure they also get off the streets when they become a potential threat. There continues to be a lot of criticism from certain groups within our country that wants the police act tougher, but I think the majority of people are happy with how the police does it's job here.

devin 6y ago
What country do you live in?
- Myce 6y ago
  The Netherlands. I assume for some more Northern European and Scandinavian countries it's about the same.
  - colinhb 6y ago
    I am an American living in Netherlands, and policing is very different here. Think Dutch police (or at least Amsterdam police) have a much more positive impact on neighborhoods than American police (or DC / San Francisco police). I have seen more mediation and deescalation between neighbors from police in a few years in the Netherlands than decades in America. This is a tangent, there also seems to be way, way less paperwork in routine police work in the Netherlands than in America.
  - tyrlo 6y ago
    Hey no offense but tour analysis of how police works un the NL is a best partial. NL is under investigation of countless NGO for having structural racisim, relationships with far right parties and high level corruption within the police force, you can have a look to reports from the league of human right for exemple. Also social helpers system is going nowhere as you have to wait an average of 15 years to get social housing, and in the meanwhile if you're out of options you gotta go into expensive homeless shelters that would make living in the streets desirable given how bad they are, if it wasn't illegal. NL's state build a nice image of nice police and nice social help, but that's an image, reality is far from that
yread 6y ago
There is also a wijkagent - "neighborhood cop". Actual policeperson (with gun and all) that has "office hours" when they are walking around the neighborhood talking to people (even just for a chat) at the playgrounds, business owners and so on. People come to them with problems. There is a website where you can look up wijkagent for each neighborhood. Sometimes they're also active on Twitter, FB... Works quite well
- mcv 6y ago
  It's very important that police is connected to the community they police, and cares about that community. My impression of police in the US is that that is rarely the case in cases where this police brutality occurs. I'm fairly happy with Dutch police. They're visible and approachable. They're not perfect; there was a case in the 1990s where they cracked down unreasonably hard on a peaceful student protest. And in that case, it turned out that many of those cops were indeed looking forward to a fight, which is a dangerous and harmful attitude. Those instances are fairly rare, though.
  - yread 6y ago
    Yes, no one is perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plCdrFYm5b8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plCdrFYm5b8
    - mcv 6y ago
      Even so, no tear gas, no beatings, and despite the protesters resisting as much as they non-violently can, the police are not using any violence beyond pulling and shoving them into the bus. I was thinking more of this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIwrdriLiZc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIwrdriLiZc (It's surprisingly hard to find anything online about events before 2004. This was all over the news at the time, but now it looks like it never happened. My quality newspaper lacks proper archive functionality for searching more than a year ago. Search engines and Youtube have never heard of this, frequently returning 0 results.)

by Myce 6y ago

devin 6y ago

What country do you live in?

Myce 6y ago
The Netherlands. I assume for some more Northern European and Scandinavian countries it's about the same.
- colinhb 6y ago
  I am an American living in Netherlands, and policing is very different here. Think Dutch police (or at least Amsterdam police) have a much more positive impact on neighborhoods than American police (or DC / San Francisco police). I have seen more mediation and deescalation between neighbors from police in a few years in the Netherlands than decades in America. This is a tangent, there also seems to be way, way less paperwork in routine police work in the Netherlands than in America.
- tyrlo 6y ago
  Hey no offense but tour analysis of how police works un the NL is a best partial. NL is under investigation of countless NGO for having structural racisim, relationships with far right parties and high level corruption within the police force, you can have a look to reports from the league of human right for exemple. Also social helpers system is going nowhere as you have to wait an average of 15 years to get social housing, and in the meanwhile if you're out of options you gotta go into expensive homeless shelters that would make living in the streets desirable given how bad they are, if it wasn't illegal. NL's state build a nice image of nice police and nice social help, but that's an image, reality is far from that

yread 6y ago

There is also a wijkagent - "neighborhood cop". Actual policeperson (with gun and all) that has "office hours" when they are walking around the neighborhood talking to people (even just for a chat) at the playgrounds, business owners and so on. People come to them with problems. There is a website where you can look up wijkagent for each neighborhood. Sometimes they're also active on Twitter, FB... Works quite well

mcv 6y ago
It's very important that police is connected to the community they police, and cares about that community. My impression of police in the US is that that is rarely the case in cases where this police brutality occurs. I'm fairly happy with Dutch police. They're visible and approachable. They're not perfect; there was a case in the 1990s where they cracked down unreasonably hard on a peaceful student protest. And in that case, it turned out that many of those cops were indeed looking forward to a fight, which is a dangerous and harmful attitude. Those instances are fairly rare, though.
- yread 6y ago
  Yes, no one is perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plCdrFYm5b8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plCdrFYm5b8
  - mcv 6y ago
    Even so, no tear gas, no beatings, and despite the protesters resisting as much as they non-violently can, the police are not using any violence beyond pulling and shoving them into the bus. I was thinking more of this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIwrdriLiZc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIwrdriLiZc (It's surprisingly hard to find anything online about events before 2004. This was all over the news at the time, but now it looks like it never happened. My quality newspaper lacks proper archive functionality for searching more than a year ago. Search engines and Youtube have never heard of this, frequently returning 0 results.)