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I don't understand why there isn't a professional license required for LEOs. I'm a paramedic. If I harmed a patient once (let along 31 times), my card would ge

I don't understand why there isn't a professional license required for LEOs. I'm a paramedic. If I harmed a patient once (let along 31 times), my card would get revoked and that would be that. A cop, meanwhile, is likely to face no consequences at all, and in the absolute "worst" case scenario, they would just get a job in the next town over.

fludlight 6y ago
Paramedics and police are at opposite ends of the union representation spectrum. Paramedics have no union and are thus treated like livestock. The police have the strongest unions in America and are thus largely untouchable.
koheripbal 6y ago
They literally graduate from a Police Academy. Didn't you see the movie?
- JshWright 6y ago
  That academy doesn't result in a revocable license, managed by some external body (like the state Department of Health, in my case)
pyuser583 6y ago
In many states there is.
randompwd 6y ago
> If I harmed a patient once You're conflating allegations of harm vs harmed. Given your position is just assisting the person and not enforcing the law(which the person does not want the cop to do against them), you are magnitudes less likely to have allegations made against you. Allegations aren't an objective historical fact. They can and are used to spite. Apples and oranges.
- JshWright 6y ago
  I'm not talking about allegations. I'm talking about confirmed incidences of bad behavior that result in, at most, a short suspension.
  - randompwd 6y ago
    The line in parent comment is: > Officer Bob might have 31 excessive force complaints against him A complaint is an allegation. It's not a confirmed incidence of bad behaviour. Using Chauvin as example (17 complaints), From WAPO: > A summary of the complaints against Chauvin posted by the department offers no information on why they were filed, and police declined to comment on the nature of the cases. Sixteen of the complaints were closed without discipline. The remaining complaint resulted in two letters of reprimand against Chauvin, according to the summary. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/29/officer-charged-george-floyds-death-used-fatal-force-before-had-history-complaints/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/29/officer-cha...
    - JshWright 6y ago
      A letter of reprimand for excessive force should be the end of a police office's career in law enforcement (a similar incident would certainly be the end of my time as a paramedic).

fludlight 6y ago

Paramedics and police are at opposite ends of the union representation spectrum. Paramedics have no union and are thus treated like livestock. The police have the strongest unions in America and are thus largely untouchable.

koheripbal 6y ago

They literally graduate from a Police Academy. Didn't you see the movie?

JshWright 6y ago
That academy doesn't result in a revocable license, managed by some external body (like the state Department of Health, in my case)

pyuser583 6y ago

In many states there is.

randompwd 6y ago

> If I harmed a patient once You're conflating allegations of harm vs harmed. Given your position is just assisting the person and not enforcing the law(which the person does not want the cop to do against them), you are magnitudes less likely to have allegations made against you. Allegations aren't an objective historical fact. They can and are used to spite. Apples and oranges.

JshWright 6y ago
I'm not talking about allegations. I'm talking about confirmed incidences of bad behavior that result in, at most, a short suspension.
- randompwd 6y ago
  The line in parent comment is: > Officer Bob might have 31 excessive force complaints against him A complaint is an allegation. It's not a confirmed incidence of bad behaviour. Using Chauvin as example (17 complaints), From WAPO: > A summary of the complaints against Chauvin posted by the department offers no information on why they were filed, and police declined to comment on the nature of the cases. Sixteen of the complaints were closed without discipline. The remaining complaint resulted in two letters of reprimand against Chauvin, according to the summary. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/29/officer-charged-george-floyds-death-used-fatal-force-before-had-history-complaints/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/29/officer-cha...
  - JshWright 6y ago
    A letter of reprimand for excessive force should be the end of a police office's career in law enforcement (a similar incident would certainly be the end of my time as a paramedic).