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The standard conservative position is that police unions are good. So are you saying you disagree? Or is it that you agree police unions are good, but know you
by woodandsteel 6y ago
The standard conservative position is that police unions are good. So are you saying you disagree?
Or is it that you agree police unions are good, but know you don't have good arguments for that view, and so are trying to divert the discussion away from police unions and over to unions as such?
My own view is that calling unions all good or all bad is simply mistaken. They are a mix, and the proportion depends greatly on the case. I see police unions as one of the cases way over on the bad side. Do you disagree?
- idoby 6y agoMan, you sure put a whole bunch of words in my mouth. All I'm saying is that unions are created in order to block change that they perceive to be in opposition to their interests. This applies to wages, automation and other things. This is literally what unions were and are created for. Police or otherwise. Are they good or bad? Depends. If you're in law enforcement, your employer is the government and you probably don't have a lot of choices of employer besides the government, so I'd say in that sector, it's a good thing to have. And the opposite for tech, where competition for workers drives wages and benefits up, and unions would only get in the way of that, and drain resources for their fancy offices. And last, not everybody lives in the US. I happen to live in a country whose growth and prosperity is directly hindered by unions who spend lavishly on offices and cars for their officials, but do very little for the rank and file, while stifling innovation, of course.
- woodandsteel 6y agoThe reason I pushed so hard on you is this is an article about how police unions are bad for the society, and you are trying to steer the discussion away from that topic to the general question of unions as such.