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"The FBI wanted to work out an arrangement in which the developer would secretly feed its operatives information about Telegram’s inner workings—things like new

"The FBI wanted to work out an arrangement in which the developer would secretly feed its operatives information about Telegram’s inner workings—things like new features and other components of the service’s architecture that they might want to know about. The arrangement would be strictly confidential, and they were willing to pay." source: https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-crypto-keepers-levine https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-crypto-keepers-levine

joering2 6y ago
Whats your point? Telegram owners are private enterprise. They could say "okay we do it for money", or say "we won't do it because of principles". Where is this so-called "arm-twisting" ??
- Angeo34 6y ago
  >What is a metaphor the post Even if it wasn't a metaphor the US has been known to physically harass people for Software more than any other regardless of what the people did.
  - joering2 6y ago
    Us government has been _physically_ harras people for software? Some examples please?
    - jtsuken 6y ago
      Isn't it ironic how the majority of threads on this forum currently discuss the abuse of power of government officials and the excessive violence of countless law enforcement agencies, while this thread abounds in commenters conspicuously ignorant of the problem?
      - joering2 6y ago
        I'm not being ignorant. I am simply asking question - what are examples of government physically harassing software people? Unless what you saying is that some programmer neck was crushed for 8 minutes because they didn't want to implement backdoor??
- jtsuken 6y ago
  Bribing the software engineers of an independent private business behind the owner's back, and/or showing up without announcement at private residences of major stake-holders is "arm-twisting" for all intents and purposes. Admittedly it's more subtle than the typical approach the Russian or Chinese governments would follow, yet the essence is the same. In rare cases, where bribery and coercion fail, there is the institution of FISA courts in the US and the lack of control over secret services in other countries. The potential of a private business to say "okay we do it for money" is exactly the risk at hand and the reason for more than a handful of "accidental" security breaches in the recent past.

joering2 6y ago

Whats your point? Telegram owners are private enterprise. They could say "okay we do it for money", or say "we won't do it because of principles". Where is this so-called "arm-twisting" ??

Angeo34 6y ago
>What is a metaphor the post Even if it wasn't a metaphor the US has been known to physically harass people for Software more than any other regardless of what the people did.
- joering2 6y ago
  Us government has been _physically_ harras people for software? Some examples please?
  - jtsuken 6y ago
    Isn't it ironic how the majority of threads on this forum currently discuss the abuse of power of government officials and the excessive violence of countless law enforcement agencies, while this thread abounds in commenters conspicuously ignorant of the problem?
    - joering2 6y ago
      I'm not being ignorant. I am simply asking question - what are examples of government physically harassing software people? Unless what you saying is that some programmer neck was crushed for 8 minutes because they didn't want to implement backdoor??
jtsuken 6y ago
Bribing the software engineers of an independent private business behind the owner's back, and/or showing up without announcement at private residences of major stake-holders is "arm-twisting" for all intents and purposes. Admittedly it's more subtle than the typical approach the Russian or Chinese governments would follow, yet the essence is the same. In rare cases, where bribery and coercion fail, there is the institution of FISA courts in the US and the lack of control over secret services in other countries. The potential of a private business to say "okay we do it for money" is exactly the risk at hand and the reason for more than a handful of "accidental" security breaches in the recent past.