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That’s also a case for reopening - or better never closing the economy - an abrupt stop and socializing losses will leave scars for decades.

cma 6y ago
Even places that stayed mostly open got huge hits to their economy due to caution from people. For the economy to not take a hit you would need to force people into Applebee's even if they live with grandma, etc.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago
Maybe people are just sick of being told they have to put the economy above all else. Can't have single payer healthcare because economy, can't have more days off because economy, can't have a higher minimum wage because economy, etc. Ask me to take a risk because it is good for the economy and I'll tell you to fuck off. Ask me to take a risk to help reform violent police forces that oppress minorities and I'm more willing to do it.
- thu2111 6y ago
  Like quite a lot of lockdown supporters you appear to believe that there's this optional bit of frippery called the economy which can be switched off like a light switch, without consequence. Let me explain some of the consequences. In the UK people have been pulling out their own teeth with pliars because the dentists weren't allowed to be open, not even for emergency surgery. It was "too dangerous" for dentists to be close to their patients. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-52321910 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-52321910 https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/20/mum-tried-pull-tooth-when-couldnt-find-dentist-lockdown-12733941/ https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/20/mum-tried-pull-tooth-when-cou... In India, all the factories and shops were closed. But because it's India the government wasn't able to replace people's incomes overnight. Those people started to starve so they tried to go back to their home villages, in the hopes of getting some food from the land. But because of the lockdown they couldn't get transport either, so they started to walk, in some cases they tried to walk hundreds of miles. And some of them died because of it. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52086274 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52086274 In the UK there's now a backlog of 2.4 million cancer tests or treatments. There's no obvious way to catch up and some people will die because of it. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8374697/2-4-million-patients-caught-coronavirus-cancer-backlog.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8374697/2-4-million... The economy is defined, literally, as every service or product people sell each other. But sure, it's also just a minor thing that doesn't matter.
pstuart 6y ago
There was reporting that if we have properly masked ourselves from the very beginning we could have avoided the shutdowns.

cma 6y ago

Even places that stayed mostly open got huge hits to their economy due to caution from people. For the economy to not take a hit you would need to force people into Applebee's even if they live with grandma, etc.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 6y ago

Maybe people are just sick of being told they have to put the economy above all else. Can't have single payer healthcare because economy, can't have more days off because economy, can't have a higher minimum wage because economy, etc. Ask me to take a risk because it is good for the economy and I'll tell you to fuck off. Ask me to take a risk to help reform violent police forces that oppress minorities and I'm more willing to do it.

thu2111 6y ago
Like quite a lot of lockdown supporters you appear to believe that there's this optional bit of frippery called the economy which can be switched off like a light switch, without consequence. Let me explain some of the consequences. In the UK people have been pulling out their own teeth with pliars because the dentists weren't allowed to be open, not even for emergency surgery. It was "too dangerous" for dentists to be close to their patients. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-52321910 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-52321910 https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/20/mum-tried-pull-tooth-when-couldnt-find-dentist-lockdown-12733941/ https://metro.co.uk/2020/05/20/mum-tried-pull-tooth-when-cou... In India, all the factories and shops were closed. But because it's India the government wasn't able to replace people's incomes overnight. Those people started to starve so they tried to go back to their home villages, in the hopes of getting some food from the land. But because of the lockdown they couldn't get transport either, so they started to walk, in some cases they tried to walk hundreds of miles. And some of them died because of it. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52086274 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52086274 In the UK there's now a backlog of 2.4 million cancer tests or treatments. There's no obvious way to catch up and some people will die because of it. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8374697/2-4-million-patients-caught-coronavirus-cancer-backlog.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8374697/2-4-million... The economy is defined, literally, as every service or product people sell each other. But sure, it's also just a minor thing that doesn't matter.

pstuart 6y ago

There was reporting that if we have properly masked ourselves from the very beginning we could have avoided the shutdowns.