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Now I am even more interested, but still have no idea.

TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
Bah. Don't fall for this kind of bullshit manipulation. > [0] (I prefer not to name them, lest I be disregarded as a fanboy, but the clues are in the comment) Cite your sources mate. If they had such a profound affect on you, surely you can link to something they've said or written as an example. But I'll bite: is it Eliezer Yudkowsky and Warren Buffett? Elon Musk and Steve Jobs? I want to get progressively more psychotic and unhinged as my guesses progress. Is it Slavoj Žižek and Donald Trump? Paul Graham and Richard Stallman? I don't believe in personalities. Wisdom is perishable.
- 11thEarlOfMar 6y ago
  Paul Graham, Elon Musk. Buffett qualifies, not Jobs. It's not about personalities, take them or leave them. It's the way they convey their thinking when solving problems. YMMV.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
    Couldn’t you have just said their names in the first instance? Are you now also going to point us to some examples of why you think these two are good candidates?
    - 11thEarlOfMar 6y ago
      I don't have time to find the better examples, but this is one Musk has talked about for many years: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/18/why-elon-musk-wants-his-employees-to-use-a-strategy-called-first-principles.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/18/why-elon-musk-wants-his-empl... What's interesting, and I didn't know this until I scanned this article, is that Reed Hastings also uses a First Principles approach. I mentioned my stock picks got better. I bought TSLA in 2012 and NFLX in 2013. For Paul Graham, his body of essays is a great source for how he thinks through problem solving in general, and he takes on more than just science or tech related topics: http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html Since you mentioned Warren Buffet, any of his annual shareholder letters is a good source: https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/letters.html https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/letters.html He's a sample from 2009: "From the start, Charlie and I have believed in having a rational and unbending standard for measuring what we have – or have not – accomplished. That keeps us from the temptation of seeing where the arrow of performance lands and then painting the bull’s eye around it."
      - TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
        Thank you for the more comprehensive response.
      - quietthrow 6y ago
        Huge fan of Elon and Warren buffet. But I always wonder would they be who they are by lurking on HN trying to improve themselves? And they certainly didn’t get where they are by being on hn or similar forums. Even thought I don’t know them personally I feel The way they built their knowledge was in Avery different way thst you and I might be going about based on the click baity thread we are talking at currently. In that sense may be HN is a waste of time too? The more I think about this the more I feel is thst we have it wrong. I think what they have is focus. I think what we have is distractions by virtue of seeking things thst improves us and on the internet there are so many of them that one may be all over the place. He who chases two rabbits catches none.
        11thEarlOfMar 6y ago
        I see it a bit differently. Some people get on a cycle of taking action, reviewing the results, and learning to improve the results of their next action. All three of those I cited have that in their DNA (or so it seems to me). Learning from others is a key aspect of that approach. In reviewing the results, and even before taking the action, search for how others have approached the same problem. Not necessarily to copy them, but to identify what worked and adopt it, what didn't work and avoid it, then, synthesize and move forward to the next challenge. A Musk quote that stuck with me came in the midst of one of his Twitter escapades wherein he was regularly attacked for seemingly erratic, likely sleep-deprived statements. He came across as very defensive to a reporter who asked him if he felt he could accept criticism. He responded, "How do you think rockets get into space?" He may not be so concerned about how Wall Street perceives his character, but when it comes to SpaceX, and likely all of his serious endeavors, he's relentlessly critical of solutions. Hacker News is just one source to get ideas, learn new things and practice rational thinking. Folks around here are more than happy to help hone your skills. If you can carry that into daily life, you'll catch a rabbit or two.

Bah. Don't fall for this kind of bullshit manipulation. > [0] (I prefer not to name them, lest I be disregarded as a fanboy, but the clues are in the comment) Cite your sources mate. If they had such a profound affect on you, surely you can link to something they've said or written as an example. But I'll bite: is it Eliezer Yudkowsky and Warren Buffett? Elon Musk and Steve Jobs? I want to get progressively more psychotic and unhinged as my guesses progress. Is it Slavoj Žižek and Donald Trump? Paul Graham and Richard Stallman? I don't believe in personalities. Wisdom is perishable.

11thEarlOfMar 6y ago
Paul Graham, Elon Musk. Buffett qualifies, not Jobs. It's not about personalities, take them or leave them. It's the way they convey their thinking when solving problems. YMMV.
- TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
  Couldn’t you have just said their names in the first instance? Are you now also going to point us to some examples of why you think these two are good candidates?
  - 11thEarlOfMar 6y ago
    I don't have time to find the better examples, but this is one Musk has talked about for many years: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/18/why-elon-musk-wants-his-employees-to-use-a-strategy-called-first-principles.html https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/18/why-elon-musk-wants-his-empl... What's interesting, and I didn't know this until I scanned this article, is that Reed Hastings also uses a First Principles approach. I mentioned my stock picks got better. I bought TSLA in 2012 and NFLX in 2013. For Paul Graham, his body of essays is a great source for how he thinks through problem solving in general, and he takes on more than just science or tech related topics: http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html http://www.paulgraham.com/articles.html Since you mentioned Warren Buffet, any of his annual shareholder letters is a good source: https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/letters.html https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/letters.html He's a sample from 2009: "From the start, Charlie and I have believed in having a rational and unbending standard for measuring what we have – or have not – accomplished. That keeps us from the temptation of seeing where the arrow of performance lands and then painting the bull’s eye around it."
    - TheSpiceIsLife 6y ago
      Thank you for the more comprehensive response.
    - quietthrow 6y ago
      Huge fan of Elon and Warren buffet. But I always wonder would they be who they are by lurking on HN trying to improve themselves? And they certainly didn’t get where they are by being on hn or similar forums. Even thought I don’t know them personally I feel The way they built their knowledge was in Avery different way thst you and I might be going about based on the click baity thread we are talking at currently. In that sense may be HN is a waste of time too? The more I think about this the more I feel is thst we have it wrong. I think what they have is focus. I think what we have is distractions by virtue of seeking things thst improves us and on the internet there are so many of them that one may be all over the place. He who chases two rabbits catches none.
      - 11thEarlOfMar 6y ago
        I see it a bit differently. Some people get on a cycle of taking action, reviewing the results, and learning to improve the results of their next action. All three of those I cited have that in their DNA (or so it seems to me). Learning from others is a key aspect of that approach. In reviewing the results, and even before taking the action, search for how others have approached the same problem. Not necessarily to copy them, but to identify what worked and adopt it, what didn't work and avoid it, then, synthesize and move forward to the next challenge. A Musk quote that stuck with me came in the midst of one of his Twitter escapades wherein he was regularly attacked for seemingly erratic, likely sleep-deprived statements. He came across as very defensive to a reporter who asked him if he felt he could accept criticism. He responded, "How do you think rockets get into space?" He may not be so concerned about how Wall Street perceives his character, but when it comes to SpaceX, and likely all of his serious endeavors, he's relentlessly critical of solutions. Hacker News is just one source to get ideas, learn new things and practice rational thinking. Folks around here are more than happy to help hone your skills. If you can carry that into daily life, you'll catch a rabbit or two.