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Educated women have more options and they do not marry guys just because they happen to have some comfy jobs and can pay for living expense for her. A lot of w

Educated women have more options and they do not marry guys just because they happen to have some comfy jobs and can pay for living expense for her. A lot of women are adopting "all or nothing" approach, aka "I'd rather live alone than with someone I am not attracted to". There are various articles where women are interviewed and they report shortage of "attractive males" for relationships. Also others where women claim, "men no longer chase" (my personal opinion is that it's because of metoo men are afraid of pursuing and asking out unless if some woman displays explicit interest) Meanwhile there are lots of women who have children with the guys they deemed attractive but that guy never commited as a husband or father, some of those are now struggling to pay their bills and raise kids as a single parent. Society has to come forward and help them raise their kids. Maybe we should get done with traditional marriage and assume every country man or woman is father or mother to every kid existing within the borders of the country and pay for their maintenance and good upbringing as a community as a whole. Maybe the cost of having kids is too high? And we need to lower it through incentives? If we choose to not do this - where will the future tax payers come from when the present ones will be on retirement? We borrow from future. Today the taxes you are paying have been used already in past for the welfare of the previous generation. Tomorrow when you'll need welfare, you'll want to have fresh population supporting it. You can bring in the immigrants but will they have the values which your community needs? Will it require a period of time before they are able to contribute to your society in a positive way?

qeternity 6y ago
> Also others where women claim, "men no longer chase" (my personal opinion is that it's because of metoo men are afraid of pursing and asking out unless if some woman displays explicit interest) I really don't think it has anything to do with #metoo. I'm a very outgoing millennial male, and I think this all boils down to a decrease in sociability, largely centered around mobile phones. When I go out, I never think about pulling my phone out, but I see countless people in social settings on their phones...not socializing. Men used to have to get over the fear of rejection but now there are countless apps that put that fear to rest and let people pursue behind the comfort and safety of a screen, even if it means lower success rate.
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rantwasp 6y ago
yeah no. one needs to take responsibility for actions. if you did something without thinking it through, you should experience the consequences. I am all for having a social net and helping people that are going through a rough time, but I believe the normalization of this will lead to more poverty. instead, I could take the view that there are too many people in the world, that having an aggressive population growth is actually a good thing, and that technology could fill in a lot of gaps we fill in by throwing unqualified people at it.
- econcon 6y ago
  >yeah no. one needs to take responsibility for actions. How can you predict if your partner will leave you in future when you decide to have kid?
  - rantwasp 6y ago
    do you have 100% control over it? no. do you have 0% control over it? hell no. there is rarely a situation where you have 0 agency and if you incentivize certain types of behavior (by providing aid/benefits) you will get that type of behavior.

qeternity 6y ago

> Also others where women claim, "men no longer chase" (my personal opinion is that it's because of metoo men are afraid of pursing and asking out unless if some woman displays explicit interest) I really don't think it has anything to do with #metoo. I'm a very outgoing millennial male, and I think this all boils down to a decrease in sociability, largely centered around mobile phones. When I go out, I never think about pulling my phone out, but I see countless people in social settings on their phones...not socializing. Men used to have to get over the fear of rejection but now there are countless apps that put that fear to rest and let people pursue behind the comfort and safety of a screen, even if it means lower success rate.

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rantwasp 6y ago

yeah no. one needs to take responsibility for actions. if you did something without thinking it through, you should experience the consequences. I am all for having a social net and helping people that are going through a rough time, but I believe the normalization of this will lead to more poverty. instead, I could take the view that there are too many people in the world, that having an aggressive population growth is actually a good thing, and that technology could fill in a lot of gaps we fill in by throwing unqualified people at it.

econcon 6y ago
>yeah no. one needs to take responsibility for actions. How can you predict if your partner will leave you in future when you decide to have kid?
- rantwasp 6y ago
  do you have 100% control over it? no. do you have 0% control over it? hell no. there is rarely a situation where you have 0 agency and if you incentivize certain types of behavior (by providing aid/benefits) you will get that type of behavior.