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Acrobatic neutrality that. 'Polarizing' and 'controversial' bothsidesism is inadequate to describe this man. As just one example, he created a 'culture ministe

Acrobatic neutrality that. 'Polarizing' and 'controversial' bothsidesism is inadequate to describe this man. As just one example, he created a 'culture minister' position and his first choice for the position promptly recorded a speech cribbing Joseph Goebbels (no joke). https://theintercept.com/2020/01/18/bolsonaro-under-fire-dismisses-his-culture-minister-for-giving-a-nazi-speech-but-it-is-still-representative-of-brazils-governing-ethos/ https://theintercept.com/2020/01/18/bolsonaro-under-fire-dis... There's plenty more if you dig. Hard to pick a more awful human being.

sizeofchar 6y ago
And he fired the guy in the same day, you forgot to mention. Also, that culture minister was set up to that piece by foul assistants, he didn’t knew what the piece was about.
- Kaze404 6y ago
  Sure, let's treat that as an isolated incident. New Minister of culture makes nazi propaganda, shocks everyone and gets fired. Fine. 1) Bolsonaro paraphrases nazi slogan "the work sets you free" 2) Bolsonaro drinks a glass of milk in one of his infamous Facebook livestreams a day after Brazil has its first neo nazi "protest" a LA Charlottesville. 3) Minister of education compares Supreme Court investigation against Jair Bolsonaro to the holocaust, going as far as posting "SIEG HEIL" on his Twitter account 4) His slogan, of course, "Brasil acima de todos" which paraphrases the nazi slogan "Deutschland uber alles" Bonus) Can't be bothered to go dig his Twitter, but a while ago the ministry of education was very open about the fashwave movement, going as far as changing his avatar to the same (frankly ridiculous) aesthetic. Not to mention all the attacks on universities and (what he refers to as) communists. It's so interesting to me how often his government is caught up in nazi garbage, yet it's never his fault. [1] https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/brazils-bolsonaro-slammed-for-using-nazi-slogan-as-coronavirus-motto-627820 https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/brazils-bolsonaro-... (obviously biased sources but it presents the facts as they happened) [2] https://revistaforum.com.br/politica/copo-de-leite-bolsonaro-usa-simbolo-nazista-de-supremacia-racial-em-live/ https://revistaforum.com.br/politica/copo-de-leite-bolsonaro... [3] https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mundo/2020/05/consul-de-israel-critica-weintraub-por-associar-nazismo-a-operacao-do-stf.shtml https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mundo/2020/05/consul-de-israel...
  - Der_Einzige 6y ago
    Seems the integralists never went away...
  - sizeofchar 6y ago
    > 1) Bolsonaro paraphrases nazi slogan "the work sets you free" That's merely a case of misinterpretation of his words. By using this method of finding nazis, you would conclude that every one is a nazi because nazis had red blood like all of us. > 2) Bolsonaro drinks a glass of milk in one of his infamous Facebook livestreams a day after Brazil has its first neo nazi "protest" a LA Charlottesville. Fact-checked to be false. Revista Forum is a well known fake news site. [1] > 3) Minister of education compares Supreme Court investigation against Jair Bolsonaro to the holocaust, going as far as posting "SIEG HEIL" on his Twitter account Can you read portuguese? He was accusing his politicals opponents of treating him like nazis treated jews. And in fact he is from a jewish family that fled from nazi Germany. > 4) His slogan, of course, "Brasil acima de todos" which paraphrases the nazi slogan "Deutschland uber alles" Same as point 1. You can't get loose expressions from people, put them in whatever context you would like, and pretend it is true or even a fact. --- [1] https://www.boatos.org/politica/bolsonaro-copo-de-leite-brindar-supremacistas-brancos-nazismo.html https://www.boatos.org/politica/bolsonaro-copo-de-leite-brin...
    - Kaze404 6y ago
      > Fact-checked to be false. Revista Forum is a well known fake news site. [1] I read the link and it's not news to anyone that he was actually responding to a real movement of milk producers. The point is it doesn't have to be one or the other. I'm not going to bother responding to the other points because you seemed to have missed mine entirely. These "incidents", isolated, don't mean anything like you can probably tell. However, isolated incidents is now how situations are analyzed, and doing so is just a way to rationalize not seeing what's very clearly in front of you.
    - piva00 6y ago
      It's quite hard to accept that nazi imagery is going on in his government merely by coincidence. It's happened multiple times in a short 18 months timespan. Even if it's just by complete coincidence it's quite alarming as it either tells: they are ignorante about nazi imagery (which no government official in the modern age should be) or they simply don't care. Or even worse, they don't care and capitulate on it as it's loyal base encompasses white supremacists (no, not saying his supporters are white supremacists but he attracts them).
orbital223 6y ago
> he created a 'culture minister' position No, he did not. The ministry of culture was created in 1985.

sizeofchar 6y ago

And he fired the guy in the same day, you forgot to mention. Also, that culture minister was set up to that piece by foul assistants, he didn’t knew what the piece was about.

Kaze404 6y ago
Sure, let's treat that as an isolated incident. New Minister of culture makes nazi propaganda, shocks everyone and gets fired. Fine. 1) Bolsonaro paraphrases nazi slogan "the work sets you free" 2) Bolsonaro drinks a glass of milk in one of his infamous Facebook livestreams a day after Brazil has its first neo nazi "protest" a LA Charlottesville. 3) Minister of education compares Supreme Court investigation against Jair Bolsonaro to the holocaust, going as far as posting "SIEG HEIL" on his Twitter account 4) His slogan, of course, "Brasil acima de todos" which paraphrases the nazi slogan "Deutschland uber alles" Bonus) Can't be bothered to go dig his Twitter, but a while ago the ministry of education was very open about the fashwave movement, going as far as changing his avatar to the same (frankly ridiculous) aesthetic. Not to mention all the attacks on universities and (what he refers to as) communists. It's so interesting to me how often his government is caught up in nazi garbage, yet it's never his fault. [1] https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/brazils-bolsonaro-slammed-for-using-nazi-slogan-as-coronavirus-motto-627820 https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/brazils-bolsonaro-... (obviously biased sources but it presents the facts as they happened) [2] https://revistaforum.com.br/politica/copo-de-leite-bolsonaro-usa-simbolo-nazista-de-supremacia-racial-em-live/ https://revistaforum.com.br/politica/copo-de-leite-bolsonaro... [3] https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mundo/2020/05/consul-de-israel-critica-weintraub-por-associar-nazismo-a-operacao-do-stf.shtml https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/mundo/2020/05/consul-de-israel...
- Der_Einzige 6y ago
  Seems the integralists never went away...
- sizeofchar 6y ago
  > 1) Bolsonaro paraphrases nazi slogan "the work sets you free" That's merely a case of misinterpretation of his words. By using this method of finding nazis, you would conclude that every one is a nazi because nazis had red blood like all of us. > 2) Bolsonaro drinks a glass of milk in one of his infamous Facebook livestreams a day after Brazil has its first neo nazi "protest" a LA Charlottesville. Fact-checked to be false. Revista Forum is a well known fake news site. [1] > 3) Minister of education compares Supreme Court investigation against Jair Bolsonaro to the holocaust, going as far as posting "SIEG HEIL" on his Twitter account Can you read portuguese? He was accusing his politicals opponents of treating him like nazis treated jews. And in fact he is from a jewish family that fled from nazi Germany. > 4) His slogan, of course, "Brasil acima de todos" which paraphrases the nazi slogan "Deutschland uber alles" Same as point 1. You can't get loose expressions from people, put them in whatever context you would like, and pretend it is true or even a fact. --- [1] https://www.boatos.org/politica/bolsonaro-copo-de-leite-brindar-supremacistas-brancos-nazismo.html https://www.boatos.org/politica/bolsonaro-copo-de-leite-brin...
  - Kaze404 6y ago
    > Fact-checked to be false. Revista Forum is a well known fake news site. [1] I read the link and it's not news to anyone that he was actually responding to a real movement of milk producers. The point is it doesn't have to be one or the other. I'm not going to bother responding to the other points because you seemed to have missed mine entirely. These "incidents", isolated, don't mean anything like you can probably tell. However, isolated incidents is now how situations are analyzed, and doing so is just a way to rationalize not seeing what's very clearly in front of you.
  - piva00 6y ago
    It's quite hard to accept that nazi imagery is going on in his government merely by coincidence. It's happened multiple times in a short 18 months timespan. Even if it's just by complete coincidence it's quite alarming as it either tells: they are ignorante about nazi imagery (which no government official in the modern age should be) or they simply don't care. Or even worse, they don't care and capitulate on it as it's loyal base encompasses white supremacists (no, not saying his supporters are white supremacists but he attracts them).

orbital223 6y ago

> he created a 'culture minister' position No, he did not. The ministry of culture was created in 1985.