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It depends on who you ask. Some people believe it to be a sort of sacrifice i.e. it's worth getting sick and possibly dying for a social cause. That, I think, i

by dqv 6y ago

It depends on who you ask. Some people believe it to be a sort of sacrifice i.e. it's worth getting sick and possibly dying for a social cause. That, I think, is the same sentiment represented by the business closure protesters. Just different social causes. Many people forgot when the news cycle told them to forget. I think it's important to note that one group of protesters is still taking SARS-CoV-2 more seriously than another group of protesters[0]. [0]: https://i.imgur.com/isF7i7T.jpg https://i.imgur.com/isF7i7T.jpg

kspacewalk2 6y ago
I've never heard anyone argue that it's a "sacrifice", and one worth making at that. Are you sure you're not just misrepresenting a view you dislike? I have heard, and agree wholeheartedly, with a view that this has never been about lives vs. economy, because worsening economic conditions have a predictable cost in human lives. It's actually a tradeoff between lives lost to covid and lives lost to losing health insurance, cancelled medical procedures, suicide, etc. And it is not clear to me at all that either choice will clearly result in fewer deaths.
- dqv 6y ago
  > I've never heard anyone argue that it's a "sacrifice", and one worth making at that. Are you sure you're not just misrepresenting a view you dislike? In which case? Floyd protesters: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/health/pandemic-protesters-covid-risk-floyd-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/health/pandemic-protesters-co... In the case with the Floyd protesters, it's more abstract, but the same sentiment is there. I'd have to go back through my feed to find the specific examples of people explicitly saying they are okay with the possibility of dying from coronavirus. Back-to-workers: https://www.texastribune.org/2020/03/23/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-says-bad-economy-worse-coronavirus/ https://www.texastribune.org/2020/03/23/texas-lt-gov-dan-pat... > "No one reached out to me and said, 'As a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?' And if that's the exchange, I'm all in," he said. "And that doesn't make me noble or brave or anything like that. > "I just think there are lots of grandparents out there in this country like me ... that what we all care about and what we all love more than anything are those children," he added. "And I want to, you know, live smart and see through this, but I don't want to see the whole country to be sacrificed, and that's what I see."
- __s 6y ago
  "Texas lieutenant governor bashed for saying grandparents willing to die to revive virus-torn economy" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-texas-lieutenant-governor-dan-patrick-slammed-tucker-carlson-willing-to-die-to-revive-economy https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-texas-lieutenant-go...

by dqv 6y ago

kspacewalk2 6y ago

I've never heard anyone argue that it's a "sacrifice", and one worth making at that. Are you sure you're not just misrepresenting a view you dislike? I have heard, and agree wholeheartedly, with a view that this has never been about lives vs. economy, because worsening economic conditions have a predictable cost in human lives. It's actually a tradeoff between lives lost to covid and lives lost to losing health insurance, cancelled medical procedures, suicide, etc. And it is not clear to me at all that either choice will clearly result in fewer deaths.

dqv 6y ago
> I've never heard anyone argue that it's a "sacrifice", and one worth making at that. Are you sure you're not just misrepresenting a view you dislike? In which case? Floyd protesters: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/health/pandemic-protesters-covid-risk-floyd-trnd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/06/health/pandemic-protesters-co... In the case with the Floyd protesters, it's more abstract, but the same sentiment is there. I'd have to go back through my feed to find the specific examples of people explicitly saying they are okay with the possibility of dying from coronavirus. Back-to-workers: https://www.texastribune.org/2020/03/23/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-says-bad-economy-worse-coronavirus/ https://www.texastribune.org/2020/03/23/texas-lt-gov-dan-pat... > "No one reached out to me and said, 'As a senior citizen, are you willing to take a chance on your survival in exchange for keeping the America that all America loves for your children and grandchildren?' And if that's the exchange, I'm all in," he said. "And that doesn't make me noble or brave or anything like that. > "I just think there are lots of grandparents out there in this country like me ... that what we all care about and what we all love more than anything are those children," he added. "And I want to, you know, live smart and see through this, but I don't want to see the whole country to be sacrificed, and that's what I see."
__s 6y ago
"Texas lieutenant governor bashed for saying grandparents willing to die to revive virus-torn economy" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-texas-lieutenant-governor-dan-patrick-slammed-tucker-carlson-willing-to-die-to-revive-economy https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-texas-lieutenant-go...