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Is there any similar service for Gmail, integration only with mail servers? Similar client-side experience, No ads, no data collection. etc It could be first s

Is there any similar service for Gmail, integration only with mail servers? Similar client-side experience, No ads, no data collection. etc It could be first step for de-googlifying

Jakob 6y ago
I’m curious because I have never heard from someone preferring the Gmail client-side experience. Can you elaborate? While certainly usable, isn’t the client-side experience one of the negative points of Gmail? (generic icons all over the place, resizing/reloading behavior erratic, load time, settings discovery hard, …)
- praveen9920 6y ago
  It's more of a personal preference at this point. I got accustomed to the experience.
- mattlondon 6y ago
  I found the web UIs of things like protonmail fastmail and tutanota to be really poor in comparison to Gmail. I just couldn't get on with them and ultimately was why I chose not to use their services. They felt incredibly basic and clunky - search was poor, things like labelling etc were difficult/not present, I couldn't do a top-bottom window split, I can't remember but I think even the concept of archiving was not there. The crap UIs really really put me off when looking for a non-google alternative email service. In the end I found that Zoho mail had the best modern web UI that is comparable to Gmail (it is not amazing in terms of usability and has a lot of fussiness going on that is distracting) and very reasonable pricing for custom domains with a catch-all and so have been using them ever since. The Zoho app is also acceptable.
- snazz 6y ago
  It has very nice Vim-like keyboard shortcuts, a good UI for setting up advanced filtering rules, it loads instantly (on my computer, at least; this has gotten much better recently), and text editing features like Smart Compose and the Googlified spellchecker beat everything else. I can see why you might not like it if you're used to Outlook or Thunderbird, but it meets my needs perfectly. It also integrates with Google Keep, Tasks, and Calendar, which is nice. (Some people seem to seriously underestimate how good Smart Compose is---it's learned all of my favorite combinations of words and I can basically write entire emails and documents by typing a few letters and then mashing the tab key to accept all of the autocompletions)
janwillemb 6y ago
Mailpile: it's a personal webclient that can connect with any imap server. Fastmail is an alternative, paid product which imo is better than Gmail.

Is there any similar service for Gmail, integration only with mail servers? Similar client-side experience, No ads, no data collection. etc It could be first step for de-googlifying

Jakob 6y ago

I’m curious because I have never heard from someone preferring the Gmail client-side experience. Can you elaborate? While certainly usable, isn’t the client-side experience one of the negative points of Gmail? (generic icons all over the place, resizing/reloading behavior erratic, load time, settings discovery hard, …)

praveen9920 6y ago
It's more of a personal preference at this point. I got accustomed to the experience.
mattlondon 6y ago
I found the web UIs of things like protonmail fastmail and tutanota to be really poor in comparison to Gmail. I just couldn't get on with them and ultimately was why I chose not to use their services. They felt incredibly basic and clunky - search was poor, things like labelling etc were difficult/not present, I couldn't do a top-bottom window split, I can't remember but I think even the concept of archiving was not there. The crap UIs really really put me off when looking for a non-google alternative email service. In the end I found that Zoho mail had the best modern web UI that is comparable to Gmail (it is not amazing in terms of usability and has a lot of fussiness going on that is distracting) and very reasonable pricing for custom domains with a catch-all and so have been using them ever since. The Zoho app is also acceptable.
snazz 6y ago
It has very nice Vim-like keyboard shortcuts, a good UI for setting up advanced filtering rules, it loads instantly (on my computer, at least; this has gotten much better recently), and text editing features like Smart Compose and the Googlified spellchecker beat everything else. I can see why you might not like it if you're used to Outlook or Thunderbird, but it meets my needs perfectly. It also integrates with Google Keep, Tasks, and Calendar, which is nice. (Some people seem to seriously underestimate how good Smart Compose is---it's learned all of my favorite combinations of words and I can basically write entire emails and documents by typing a few letters and then mashing the tab key to accept all of the autocompletions)

janwillemb 6y ago

Mailpile: it's a personal webclient that can connect with any imap server. Fastmail is an alternative, paid product which imo is better than Gmail.