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Rust may be “hot” but there are far more Java jobs than Rust jobs and I highly doubt that’s going to change anytime soon. And indeed Java developers have been h

Rust may be “hot” but there are far more Java jobs than Rust jobs and I highly doubt that’s going to change anytime soon. And indeed Java developers have been highly employed for quite some time.

Throwaway8588 6y ago
True, most transitions won’t be permanent but it really sucks to miss the ones that are (Angular and React eating everything).
jghn 6y ago
Agreed. I personally love the "hot" tech, but anyone claiming there are more jobs for those skills than the tried & trued is being disingenuous
- MattGaiser 6y ago
  I think it depends on where you want to work. If you check out the YC job boards, they want TypeScript, Go, and GraphQL.
  - didibus 6y ago
    I've found in general the places that use Java don't look for a Java developer. Its like they just assume you can pick it up. You might see things like knowledge of OOP, SQL, etc. on the job listing. For example, lots of large companies like Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Twitter, Netflix, etc. have a ton of Java, but their job descriptions don't really mention it. On the other hand, if a place needs Typescript, or GO, they'll mention it.
    - randombytes6869 6y ago
      I think job descriptions are just marketing materials for developers at a lot of places. Advertising your COBOL just gets you people that want to make more COBOL. Every job I take, whatever the oldest crappiest technology mentioned in the footnotes is, ends up being 90% of my job.
  - jghn 6y ago
    Sure. If I want to only work with the hot tech then yes, my choices are limited to companies using hot tech. But the reality is that the vast majority of development jobs are using the old standbys.
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karatestomp 6y ago
Yeah, every time I job hunt it’s 10x the enterprise Java opportunities (don’t really want those) versus Ruby, Go, and even native mobile. I don’t have .net in my work history but gather it’s similar for that. Between them they’re a huge percentage of all software dev jobs, writing boring bigco software for bad-for-FAANG-but-good-for-everywhere-else pay. [edit] oh and the small/startup space is overwhelmingly Node + some front end framework + a bunch of cloud shit they probably don’t need and have mis-used and mis-configured. Take out Node, .net, and Java and hell, the next biggest segment I see is probably low-paid PHP (Wordpress mostly) work followed distantly by Ruby (mostly Rails, ugh), Python, and native mobile. Go, Rust, Haskell, Clojure, all that, rare as can be.

Throwaway8588 6y ago

True, most transitions won’t be permanent but it really sucks to miss the ones that are (Angular and React eating everything).

jghn 6y ago

Agreed. I personally love the "hot" tech, but anyone claiming there are more jobs for those skills than the tried & trued is being disingenuous

MattGaiser 6y ago
I think it depends on where you want to work. If you check out the YC job boards, they want TypeScript, Go, and GraphQL.
- didibus 6y ago
  I've found in general the places that use Java don't look for a Java developer. Its like they just assume you can pick it up. You might see things like knowledge of OOP, SQL, etc. on the job listing. For example, lots of large companies like Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Twitter, Netflix, etc. have a ton of Java, but their job descriptions don't really mention it. On the other hand, if a place needs Typescript, or GO, they'll mention it.
  - randombytes6869 6y ago
    I think job descriptions are just marketing materials for developers at a lot of places. Advertising your COBOL just gets you people that want to make more COBOL. Every job I take, whatever the oldest crappiest technology mentioned in the footnotes is, ends up being 90% of my job.
- jghn 6y ago
  Sure. If I want to only work with the hot tech then yes, my choices are limited to companies using hot tech. But the reality is that the vast majority of development jobs are using the old standbys.

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karatestomp 6y ago

Yeah, every time I job hunt it’s 10x the enterprise Java opportunities (don’t really want those) versus Ruby, Go, and even native mobile. I don’t have .net in my work history but gather it’s similar for that. Between them they’re a huge percentage of all software dev jobs, writing boring bigco software for bad-for-FAANG-but-good-for-everywhere-else pay. [edit] oh and the small/startup space is overwhelmingly Node + some front end framework + a bunch of cloud shit they probably don’t need and have mis-used and mis-configured. Take out Node, .net, and Java and hell, the next biggest segment I see is probably low-paid PHP (Wordpress mostly) work followed distantly by Ruby (mostly Rails, ugh), Python, and native mobile. Go, Rust, Haskell, Clojure, all that, rare as can be.