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Brave has to pay salaries - I suppose this is better than selling user data. Chrome is subsidized by search and Firefox gets money from Google. The revenue mod

Brave has to pay salaries - I suppose this is better than selling user data. Chrome is subsidized by search and Firefox gets money from Google. The revenue model for browsers is fucked up.

slater 6y ago
Countdown till some Chromium-based browser pops up with adblock enabled, but a $10/mo usage fee? (i jinxed it, didn't i)
- deleted 6y ago
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- Sherl 6y ago
  fuckin linux is free where the entire business lives serving trillions of dollars. $10/mo for a web browser? guess its time for another FOSS on browsers this time.
  - slater 6y ago
    So I take it you won't be signing up for Adobe® CloudBrowser™ any time soon...?
LeoPanthera 6y ago
Ironically there’s only one browser with a sane business model and it’s Safari. You have to buy an Apple product to use it. Simple. That’s probably why it’s the only mainstream browser, outside of obscure open source browsers like Falkon and Gnome Web, that doesn’t have any built-in ties to third party services.
- selykg 6y ago
  I think Apple still get revenue from Google (and probably Bing?) searches. Could be wrong but I thought I remember details about Google paying Apple for this. But it was years ago I last seen it Edit: quick search for “safari google search revenue” got me a few links from prior years about Google paying to be the default search engine. Last mention was 2019 so who knows how long that contract is or whatever
- bmarquez 6y ago
  Safari is also mainstream because you have no choice but to use it on iOS. Even if you manually install another browser (which can't be made default), you're still using the underlying Safari engine.
- the_duke 6y ago
  Apple gets billions and billions each year to make Google the default search engine in Safari on iOS and Mac OS. (reported to be 12 billion in 2019 [1]) Apples privacy efforts and signaling are motivated by differentiation to Android/Google and are mostly just marketing targeted at increasingly privacy-aware consumers. Not some value judgement. (in my opinion) [1] https://fortune.com/2018/09/29/google-apple-safari-search-engine/ https://fortune.com/2018/09/29/google-apple-safari-search-en...
  - vvG94KbDUtRa 6y ago
    Also increasingly apple is moving to compete in services. Every incentive in the world will be to adopt the practices the other guys do. Putting your trust in apple right now on the privacy issue seems pretty misguided.
- noisem4ker 6y ago
  >there’s only one browser with a sane business model and it’s Safari. Also consider Edge, its Microsoft counterpart.

Brave has to pay salaries - I suppose this is better than selling user data. Chrome is subsidized by search and Firefox gets money from Google. The revenue model for browsers is fucked up.

slater 6y ago

Countdown till some Chromium-based browser pops up with adblock enabled, but a $10/mo usage fee? (i jinxed it, didn't i)

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Sherl 6y ago
fuckin linux is free where the entire business lives serving trillions of dollars. $10/mo for a web browser? guess its time for another FOSS on browsers this time.
- slater 6y ago
  So I take it you won't be signing up for Adobe® CloudBrowser™ any time soon...?

LeoPanthera 6y ago

Ironically there’s only one browser with a sane business model and it’s Safari. You have to buy an Apple product to use it. Simple. That’s probably why it’s the only mainstream browser, outside of obscure open source browsers like Falkon and Gnome Web, that doesn’t have any built-in ties to third party services.

selykg 6y ago
I think Apple still get revenue from Google (and probably Bing?) searches. Could be wrong but I thought I remember details about Google paying Apple for this. But it was years ago I last seen it Edit: quick search for “safari google search revenue” got me a few links from prior years about Google paying to be the default search engine. Last mention was 2019 so who knows how long that contract is or whatever
bmarquez 6y ago
Safari is also mainstream because you have no choice but to use it on iOS. Even if you manually install another browser (which can't be made default), you're still using the underlying Safari engine.
the_duke 6y ago
Apple gets billions and billions each year to make Google the default search engine in Safari on iOS and Mac OS. (reported to be 12 billion in 2019 [1]) Apples privacy efforts and signaling are motivated by differentiation to Android/Google and are mostly just marketing targeted at increasingly privacy-aware consumers. Not some value judgement. (in my opinion) [1] https://fortune.com/2018/09/29/google-apple-safari-search-engine/ https://fortune.com/2018/09/29/google-apple-safari-search-en...
- vvG94KbDUtRa 6y ago
  Also increasingly apple is moving to compete in services. Every incentive in the world will be to adopt the practices the other guys do. Putting your trust in apple right now on the privacy issue seems pretty misguided.
noisem4ker 6y ago
>there’s only one browser with a sane business model and it’s Safari. Also consider Edge, its Microsoft counterpart.