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Opera is still proprietary, and, uh, also they got caught doing some stuff involving predatory short-term loans to the impoverished in African countries, not to
by kick 6y ago
Opera is still proprietary, and, uh, also they got caught doing some stuff involving predatory short-term loans to the impoverished in African countries, not to mention their CEO was also involved in an entirely different Chinese conglomerate that was also involved with fraud and some lending thing.
Oh yeah and if you haven't used it since 2006: Opera is Chromium now, and the company behind it got sold a time or two.
- sergiotapia 6y agowhat the fuck, whats happening in the tech scene :( what should I use if I _dont_ want to be in the botnet or scammed and outside of google's mesh
- coryrc 6y agoFirefox, like always.
- superkuh 6y agoI used Opera from 5 to 12, then Firefox till v37, and it's been Pale Moon ever since. Check out the latest release notes. I know I'm not the only one that likes things such as, >Removed more telemetry code >Removed the in-browser speech recognition engine and API >Removed support for the obsolete and unmaintained NVidia 3DVision stereoscopic interface. Palemoon is Firefox if it were still Firefox instead of feature-for-feature chrome copy for watching encrypted netflix.
- Shared404 6y agoI would love to be able to use Palemoon, but I just can't get over the fact that it's a single main developer trying to maintain an entire web browser. That seems like a security nightmare waiting to happen. If I'm wrong about this, please let me know, I really like the idea.
- Koshkin 6y agoExcept they don’t “maintain the entire browser,” rather, they “maintain” a trimmed-down build.
- Shared404 6y agoThanks for the clarification, that makes more sense. I'll download it and give it a shot.
- duskwuff 6y agoI'm not sure what distinction you're trying to draw here. The fact that Moonchild has removed some a few features they don't like from Palemoon doesn't make the remaining codebase meaningfully easier to maintain. They're still left with what is effectively an orphaned codebase, increasingly unable to use patches from mainline Firefox, and subject to unknown vulnerabilities in portions of the codebase which no longer exist upstream.
- superkuh 6y agoMaybe we're touching the same elephant but we're obviously on opposite ends of it. That's how I perceive Firefox security with all it's crazy new features, old experiments left in, black box DRM that's literally unauditable, etc.
- SahAssar 6y agoDosen't pale moon use https://start.me/ https://start.me/ by default still? From reading https://start.me/privacy https://start.me/privacy that does not seem encouraging.
- aasasd 6y ago> they got caught doing some stuff involving predatory short-term loans to the impoverished in African countries, not to mention their CEO was also involved in an entirely different Chinese conglomerate that was also involved with fraud and some lending thing Ooh juicy. Any links to read on this?
- kick 6y agoPrevious coverage on HN because I'm very indecisive and don't like giving links myself: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=opera%20loans&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&query=opera%20chinese&sort=byPopularity&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... You can also find more if you check Opera Software's Wikipedia page.
- aasasd 6y agoThanks!
- bmn__ 6y agoWhen it turned to shit, Yngve and Jon got out and did their own thing: https://vivaldi.com https://vivaldi.com https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8952517 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8952517