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That's amazing. According to this article, bart is now moving to tapered wheels instead of plain cylindrical: https://sf.curbed.com/2018/6/11/17449460/bart-scr

That's amazing. According to this article, bart is now moving to tapered wheels instead of plain cylindrical: https://sf.curbed.com/2018/6/11/17449460/bart-screen-conversion-wheel https://sf.curbed.com/2018/6/11/17449460/bart-screen-convers... My understanding was that all rail systems since roughly forever use tapered wheels. Primarily to reduce wear, by having the tapered wheels self center instead of grinding against the track. It's really odd that they seem to just roll that out in 2017?

buzzkillington 6y ago
It's great they are finally moving to the 19th century.
frosted-flakes 6y ago
> unlike the cylindrical profile which again just steers with the flange basically rubbing against the edge of the railhead. That's crazy. That means that the wheels are actually slipping when going around a corner, because the wheels are all the same diameter. Unlike conical wheels, which are essentially self-steering. Here's a great explanation by Richard Feynman: https://youtu.be/WAwDvbIfkos https://youtu.be/WAwDvbIfkos How could the BART trains possibly have cylindrical wheels? Conical wheels have been used on trains for ages, so that's seems weird. But doing some research, it seems that, yes, they were cylindrical: > Queensland Railways, for its first hundred years, used cylindrical wheels and vertical rails. With non-inclined rails and cylindrical wheels, the wheel squeal from trains taking curves on that railway was slight. After adopting coned wheels and inclined rails from the mid 1980s, the wheel squeal from trains curving at the same location and at the same speed decreased immensely. Some modern systems, such as Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) in San Francisco, use cylindrical wheels and flat-topped rails; BART is now switching to conical tread to reduce the noise caused by flange/rail contact and loss of adhesion of one of the wheels on curves. -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelset_(rail_transport)#Semi-conical_shape https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelset_(rail_transport)#Semi...

buzzkillington 6y ago

It's great they are finally moving to the 19th century.

frosted-flakes 6y ago

> unlike the cylindrical profile which again just steers with the flange basically rubbing against the edge of the railhead. That's crazy. That means that the wheels are actually slipping when going around a corner, because the wheels are all the same diameter. Unlike conical wheels, which are essentially self-steering. Here's a great explanation by Richard Feynman: https://youtu.be/WAwDvbIfkos https://youtu.be/WAwDvbIfkos How could the BART trains possibly have cylindrical wheels? Conical wheels have been used on trains for ages, so that's seems weird. But doing some research, it seems that, yes, they were cylindrical: > Queensland Railways, for its first hundred years, used cylindrical wheels and vertical rails. With non-inclined rails and cylindrical wheels, the wheel squeal from trains taking curves on that railway was slight. After adopting coned wheels and inclined rails from the mid 1980s, the wheel squeal from trains curving at the same location and at the same speed decreased immensely. Some modern systems, such as Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) in San Francisco, use cylindrical wheels and flat-topped rails; BART is now switching to conical tread to reduce the noise caused by flange/rail contact and loss of adhesion of one of the wheels on curves. -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelset_(rail_transport)#Semi-conical_shape https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheelset_(rail_transport)#Semi...