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I don't recall asking you for what I should or should not do. And in any case, I'm not "dismissing" people who are angry or upset. The case looks pretty clear c
by m0zg 6y ago
I don't recall asking you for what I should or should not do. And in any case, I'm not "dismissing" people who are angry or upset. The case looks pretty clear cut to me: George Floyd's death is tragic and those responsible should be prosecuted. Literally _everyone_ agrees with this. Nor does the article "dismiss" anything. The article presents the most viable, adult way out that I have seen suggested thus far.
The fundamental truth of the situation is that you can't disband the police, and "defunding" it, partially or fully, is not a serious solution to the problems we face as a society. Anyone who suggests this with a straight face doesn't want solutions, they want to continue to be angry and upset.
We can (and should) reform it. We can (and should) train it better. We can (and should) hire better people to work in it. We can (and should) fire/prosecute bad apples faster where there's evidence of wrongdoing.
You CAN'T DO any of this by stigmatizing the police profession or reducing funding. It's not a serious suggestion. You also can't do that by burning a police car or looting a Target. I hope these truths are self-evident enough, but if not, I don't know what to tell you.
- dredmorbius 6y agoGiven the structural issues with police departments, training, unions, prosecutors, the history of policing, a complete disassembly and start from fresh principles may well be warranted.
- m0zg 6y agoNot a realistic suggestion. Read the article, please. At the moment you're parroting The Internationale even without knowing it: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationale https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationale I don't need to remind you where this particular road ends. As someone who grew up under a communist regime, believe me when I tell you this: you won't like it.